Originally Posted by AndrewJ 
We do need to remember not matter what company, we will mainly here negative comments over positive since those who get good service, don't have problems and don't feel the need to share with everyone.
thats a good point, Andrewj, but if you google chillblast, dell, evesham, arbico etc etc you might get the odd bad experience but nowhere near the vast numbers that appear with Eclipse - and they're not a big company !! I think tha must indicate something about Eclipse's performance,
thanks for all your input, and thanks for helping me with DVD writers and ROM's !!
I'd forgotten for a moment what ROMs and writers meant - I'm not a big techie but that was a bad day even for me !! I think I would want a writer ( to back up my files, rather lost faith in PCs recently - probably not a bad thing )