Originally Posted by greektony 
ahh, so I would be best off getting a cheap/free package from sky then?
if you want access to FTV channels, yes. "freesat from sky" usually forces you to submit to several endless surveys with fairly regular intervals, and you don't get any choice of sky box (i.e. you're stuck without PVR functions)
channel 4's contract with sky ends imminently, at which point they go FTA. channel 5 it's a few months away