Originally posted by DaBeeeenster I dont quite understand the issue. If most of your workmates were gay, going to a gay bar sounds normal. Maybe once every few weeks you could have asked to go to a straight bar?
I've been a to a number of gay bars in Soho (normally just for a quick drink as I used to work around that way) and I have to say I have _never_ been asked to leave the bar/pub on account of being straight. I dont know, maybe I look really gay
If anyone asked me if I was straight and consequently ask me to wait outside I'd tell them to **** off and take their bigotted views elsewhere. Quite simple really.
To me it sounds like you have met a couple of bigotted gay people who have it in for straight guys. Although I think there is a modicum of justification in as much gay people in England are given a lot of **** by straight men, their views may well have been bigotted.
I dont think you can say that, because you met a few bigotted gay people that there is some sort of UK conspiracy against straight men.
As to your final point, it's an outrage either way. Who on earth is saying that a straight person being asked to leave a gay bar is not an outrage? I think that's pretty outrageous.
You ask for evidence of someone being prejudged due their being straight and as soon as someone does, you put it down to a 'couple of bigotted gay people' giving this fella a hard time because they have had 'a lot of **** from straight men'.
This is exactly the problem we have. We can explain our way out of prejudice when it isn't against the minority, but this 'put up and shut up' attitude causes more problems than it solves. It causes hatred between groups, rather than understanding.
We don't tell the [insert minority group here] to put up and shut up! We arrest the perpertrator of such prejudice for [insert and -ism here]-ist abuse!
Oh, sorry, I've never heard of heterophobia or straight-ism!