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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    I'll mention it again.

    Forking hangouts... why why why why

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    Quote Originally Posted by abaxas View Post
    I'll mention it again.

    Forking hangouts... why why why why
    another benefit of staying on jelly bean. I still have the old messaging. I avoid like the plague any update that mentions "hangouts"

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    WRT the mail app, hasn't that been deprecated altogether now? Maybe it's just on Nexus devices but if I try to open it I just get a message telling me to use the Gmail app instead.

    I can still use the stock Messaging app on Lollipop, but the stock gallery app has been replaced with Google+ Photos. Yeah, I hate being forced to use anything like that myself. I did have Hangouts disabled on KitKat but I kept getting 'Hangouts has stopped' messages on Lollipop so had to re-enable it.

    On the subject of Android in general, I don't really consider it as Android vs iPhone because there are a load of different Android devices with vastly different user experiences and can only really relate my experience to the software updates on my Nexus 4. KitKat was fine as far as I can remember, but I'm unimpressed with Lollipop and more so with the apparent attitude of the developers towards stability.

    My experience with Windows Phone and iOS is more limited but I don't consider either of them trouble-free either, and given the choice I'd still pick Android TBH, but probably not a Nexus device with bleeding-edge updates - I want things to work, not to be a beta tester. Though having said that, I wouldn't mind so much if they actually paid attention to and fixed bugs.

    Oh and another bug to report - I got a crash when taking a picture a day or two ago. The screen went black (but backlight still illuminated) when I pressed the shutter button and hung there for about a minute until it rebooted itself.

    Still undecided on stock image with update nags vs CyanogenMod.

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    that sounds like the fault taking place with my wife's phone. 1 shot 2 shots 3sh oh no shutdown.

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    rolled back to kit kat. Random shutdowns still happening. The thing is up the creek. Is there a way to wipe the thing. Like truly totally wipe it to oblivion and then install *everything* from scratch not just the flashimage but the underlying fastboot and android core beneath it?

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    After replacing my failed Moto G 4G with an LG G3 I've finally had a chance to play around with Lollipop. So far I'm having a decent time with it, I can't really compare battery life etc as I haven't run this phone on 4G at all and the batter is significantly larger than the Moto G and its 720p screen.

    With that said, it's disappointing to see SD cards are still an issue. I was very surprised to find out on my Moto G that SD card access was severely restricted in KitKat except Motorola had reverted that change in their ROM. Unfortunately seems this isn't the case with LG's Lollipop and while some apps are updating for the new Lollipop permission, firefox apparently still isn't (can't change browser.download.dir to the sd, it simply fails) even though upon installing it lists SD access as a permission it requests.

    May end up rooting and installing the SD access fixes that apparently still work from KitKat. Not that keen on doing my first rooting on a frankly quite expensive phone straight after buying it due to a failure of another phone only 5 months into it's 1 year warranty (internal storage seems to have failed of all things) but I do have a little experience from running jailbreak on my old iPod Touch.

    On the whole I'm fairly happy with Lollipop but can't directly compare it pre-upgrade due to being 2 different phones. That said, as others have also mentioned it still comes with all the google crap that nobody actually uses.

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    I am planning to buy a new phone, my budget is tight but I can spend upto 400$, what would be good for me nexus 4 or 5?

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Cage View Post
    I am planning to buy a new phone, my budget is tight but I can spend upto 400$, what would be good for me nexus 4 or 5?
    If you are on a budget and want a basic android based phone, get a Motorola G second generation. It comes with 5.0.2 and works well enough. The hardware feels quite good, it sits nicely in my hand and feels solid. I don't see any point in spending more on an android phone than you have to.

    As this thread shows, the android implementation on different platforms and even on the same platform between different android versions can be unpredictable and frustrating, and if you have to start messing about rooting and reloading software images, then it probably wasn't fit for purpose in the first place.

    If you have the money to spend on a high end phone, then you might as well go for an iPhone. Yes, expensive, locked into Apple blah blah, but the hardware and software are tightly integrated to create a single product, there are no variables in hardware that the software developers are unaware of, and those are big pluses.

    The same may be true for Windows based phones. Now Nokia are part of Microsoft, the same considerations apply. Hardware and software will be tightly integrated the issues concerning hardware incompatibility should not exist.
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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Cage View Post
    I am planning to buy a new phone, my budget is tight but I can spend upto 400$, what would be good for me nexus 4 or 5?
    You can buy moto g 2nd gen. but as a app developer I want to say that before purchasing, try to research about the OS behing the mobile and the working of it. Different mobiles gives different user interface and it should be good for user and also the exicution time and responce time should be good.

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalph View Post
    You can buy moto g 2nd gen. but as a app developer I want to say that before purchasing, try to research about the OS behing the mobile and the working of it. Different mobiles gives different user interface and it should be good for user and also the exicution time and responce time should be good.
    Thanks for reply, I am a student and I dont know so much about the mobile OS, applications and development. So how can I get some good application updates and knowledge about the OS and the working architecture. So I can choose a good device for me.

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooms View Post
    http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ndsets-1271938

    Was the issue. I'm not having it on my Nexus7 but my S4A is sitting at 89% Misc usage on battery usage, even after flashing yesterdays CM12 nightly. As others aren't having issues on the new builds I might have to do a clean flash and see if it resolves it.

    Luckily I only really use Wifi on my phone when at home to put stuff on the chromecast so long as I leave wifi off it doesn't drain.
    Thank you, same issue here.

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    I'm currently in the process of reinstalling 4.4.4 - I think three minor versions for bugs to be fixed is quite long enough. I'm not against trying it again in future but I'll check for bugs first.

    I've made a full backup with adb as well as backing up everything I remembered manually. Here's hoping I didn't forget anything.

    Edit: Might actually just try a fresh 5.1.1 install first. xD
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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    If I reinstalled stock kit kat does this mean I've rooted the phone?

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    No, rooting is allowing apps to gain root (essentially admin) access to the OS. Rolling back the OS doesn't root the phone, but you may have to temporarily unlock the bootloader in order to do it. It can be re-locked afterwards though, at least for Nexus devices.

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    Re: Mini-review of Android 5.0 on my Nexus 4

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    No, rooting is allowing apps to gain root (essentially admin) access to the OS. Rolling back the OS doesn't root the phone, but you may have to temporarily unlock the bootloader in order to do it. It can be re-locked afterwards though, at least for Nexus devices.
    thank goodness for that. I might be able to get a warranty replacement!

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