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Media PC to SDTV connections
This one has got me changing me mind constantly. I recently setup a HTPC in my lounge and the only thing Im not happy with is the output.
Heres what I've got to connect. - ATi 9250 in HTPC with VGA and s-video ouput - Standard 32" JVC TV with 3 scarts and composite input (no s-video) Initially I tried an s-video cable into a scart converter, which only gave a black and white picture due to the scart not being s-video enabled. The only way around this was the join the chroma and luma on the s-video/scart adapter to get colour, which I did. but the picture is very dark and the colours poor. Should I: - Get an s-video to composite cable to cut out the homebrew colour fix and adapter i.e. straight into TV? - Get a better quality s-video cable, but still use the homebrew fix - Use my older TV, which has direct s-video input? (Dont really want to do this) - Do something Ive not mentioned above? I just want the best picture quality possible. I know it will be far from perfect, but I just want to watch recorded TV and my avi collection. Ideally Id like to watchall my TV through the PCs DVB-T card. Last edited by s_kinton; 05-07-2007 at 10:48 AM. |
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I bought this for http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=187712 for an ATI 9200 and it works but sometimes you have to change a few settings in the ATI control centre or flick the switch on the back of the scart connector.
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Does the TV support RGB scart? If it does then VGA->RGB scart is the way to go (the colour will be much better) although you'll probably need something like powerstrip to sort out the timings. VGA and RGB scart are *almost* the same thing in reality - BUT read very carefully before you start as it's quite easy to blow stuff up. Really.
Start here: http://www.idiots.org.uk/vga_rgb_scart/ Nice to see you got a decent title on this thread this time around
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I would guess it does. Not 100% sure though.
I had a look at that link a few days when snooping round the internet. I havent soldered for over 10years, so I dont feel comfortable making that cable. Also, that page only talks about NTSC when running through the powerstrip setup. Its a shame theyre not available from somewhere else. I did see one a vga to scart on eBay a while ago, so I'll have another look. EDIT: What about these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Scart-to-VGA-l...QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-new-SCAR...QQcmdZViewItem These look to have the correct connections for what I need, but theres no way to work out whether I'll blow my TV up!! Last edited by s_kinton; 05-07-2007 at 12:06 PM. |
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My Shuttle is currently plugged from the S-Video out to a SCART cable and for windows based stuff its damned blurry so I've just splashed out on this.
http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpr...v%3DAGP%25208x Comes with a DVI-HDMI cable so hopefully I can now get the damned thing into the native res of my LCD TV, might also have to try CS in HD
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Thats not really my issue, Im running SD. Plus Im limited to low profile cards.
Im not really bothered about blurry text etc, I just want TV to look fine through it, which should be achievable. |
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Same thing I'm aiming for but via DVi-HDMI, was told the card i bought came with the cable but it doesnt so a few more days wait for me...
Weird thing tho the card doesnt let me add 1366x768 as a custom resolution...
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I didnt need to add any custom resolutions at all. As soon as I hooked it up it knew that 1366x768 was the maximum resolution so I just changed it to that. It did the same for games too.
How are you going to transfer the sound if you're doing dvi to hdmi? Im using a 3.5mm out the back of the PC to RCA red and white at the TV. It had specific audio slots for a PC on it. Last edited by s_kinton; 08-07-2007 at 05:12 PM. |
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Mines on the TV-Out and then split into 3 wires, from there into the TV, no doubt when I rig it upto the DVI it'll work properly, I hope lol...
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Originally Posted by s_kinton
LOL - you came to the same conclusion as me: it's just less hassle with a digital display
Actually, my old SDTV had component in and that was fine (but it was rare on SDTV).
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Originally Posted by dangel
Yep, no more messing about with homebrew cables and poor s-video colours. I got the TV for the bargain price of £275
from CCL clearance section. Its a Hyundai A321
Last edited by s_kinton; 09-07-2007 at 10:30 AM. |
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