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    Old 15-01-2009, 06:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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    New Ultra wide screens

    From Philips of all people.

    http://www.cinematicviewingexperience.com/

    Much of the site is still "Coming Soon" but there are couple fo photos floating about.


    (Image courtesy of Engadget.)

    I don't think anyone else has any details, but it is quite interesting. I wonder why they decided not to show this at CES?

    Personalyl, I can't see the point really. It just means you are going to get black bars at the sides far more often than you do at the moment.

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    Old 15-01-2009, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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    Good for those who use it for almost exclusively movies and not TV stuff.

    At one point TV wasnt widescreen. Maybe at some point in the future TV will be ultrawide too ?

    Product too early for the times or just a glimpse of the future ?

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    re: New Ultra wide screens

    Originally Posted by Sinizter View Post
    Good for those who use it for almost exclusively movies and not TV stuff.

    At one point TV wasnt widescreen. Maybe at some point in the future TV will be ultrawide too ?

    Product too early for the times or just a glimpse of the future ?
    The reason cinema moved to widescreen format in the first place was to distinguish itself from regular 4:3 TV, then when TV changed to 16:9, cinema changed again to 2:1 or whatever it is now. If television did switch to ultra-wide format, cinema aspect ratio would get even wider

    I can't really see much point in this, even if you only watch films, most films more than 3 or 4 years old would have black bars at the side anyway.
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    Old 15-01-2009, 07:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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    re: New Ultra wide screens

    why do they call them 21:9 and 16:10 when they aren't the lowest ratios?
    i always thought when you talked about ratios you used the lowest values?

    7:3 and 8:5 respectively
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    Old 15-01-2009, 08:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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    re: New Ultra wide screens

    Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    why do they call them 21:9 and 16:10 when they aren't the lowest ratios?
    i always thought when you talked about ratios you used the lowest values?

    7:3 and 8:5 respectively
    For once trying to help joe public I think. It gives you an idea of the relative ratios, so 16:9 compared to 16:10 you get the idea that the latter has a longer height, compare 16:9 to 8:5 and it not immediate what the difference is.
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    Old 15-01-2009, 08:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by Virtual Monkey View Post
    The reason cinema moved to widescreen format in the first place was to distinguish itself from regular 4:3 TV, then when TV changed to 16:9, cinema changed again to 2:1 or whatever it is now. If television did switch to ultra-wide format, cinema aspect ratio would get even wider

    I can't really see much point in this, even if you only watch films, most films more than 3 or 4 years old would have black bars at the side anyway.
    Cinema has been very wide waaaaaaay before TV was ever thinking about widescreen.

    Star Wars, for instance, was filmed at 2.20:1 way back in 1977.

    Or even in 1959 when Ben Hur was filmed in 2.76:1

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    Old 15-01-2009, 08:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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    re: New Ultra wide screens

    Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    Cinema has been very wide waaaaaaay before TV was ever thinking about widescreen.

    Star Wars, for instance, was filmed at 2.20:1 way back in 1977.
    Excellent George can release it on blueray then again for Ultra-wide, probablely redo the cgi again to add a couple more re-releases of it.

    The 50 and 60 had some really wide formats like CinemaScope, part of the film studios' battle against the new upstart the was television.
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    Old 15-01-2009, 08:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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    There won't be a new disk format just for this, that would be a money pit for anyone that tried.

    Speculation is that it will detect the black bars and remove them from the image to and bottom.

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    Old 15-01-2009, 09:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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    No new format? I bet George is planning a 16:10 release and then another 21:9
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    Old 15-01-2009, 09:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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    re: New Ultra wide screens

    No point.

    The footage will be in 2.20:1 with black bars making it 1.77:1 (known as 16:9) which is native to DVD and BluRay. This TV will just detect and remove the bars making it a 21:9 image.

    BlueRay only has support for 4:3 and 16:9. Unless an amendment to the spec is introduced because of the massive success of this TV.

    (not likely)

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    Old 15-01-2009, 09:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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    re: New Ultra wide screens

    I'm not really talking from a techical point of view rather then the point of view that if George has any opportunity to milk the public he'll take it, that would be the point of more than one ratio release. I won't be suprised to see a 16:9 release with no letterbox, if it is possible.
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    Old 15-01-2009, 09:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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    Nah, he won't do that because then he would loose a good portion of that footage at either side that he is so precious about.

    Don't worry, he'll have standard BluRay and 3D BluRay if the TV manufacturers are to believed.

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    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=501

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    News - Philips creates cinema aspect-ratio HD TV

    Film fanatics rejoice, because Philips has premiered the world?s first cinematically proportioned telly.
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    Re: News - Philips creates cinema aspect-ratio HD TV

    Didn't a member of the Hexus forum beat el Reg to it?


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    Re: News - Philips creates cinema aspect-ratio HD TV

    Funkstar, and he should get credits imho
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