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'with great power comes great responsibility....'
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NAUTILUS 802s
I have been offered a pair of B & W NAUTILUS 802s rather cheap - list is £6000 and I have been offered a pair for just over £2000 Update Now he wants 1,600£....
Currently I am running 602 s2s in my lounge and have always wanted something from the NAUTILUS range. I love them. I have a Cyrus 7 - 2 channel 70W AMP which will feed the 802s ok but I will of course be in the next 6 months move to Mono blocks and a Cyrus Pre-X AMP instead and feed this with a Linn or a Cyrus 8 DVD/CD combination. As measure (if I do get them) I will go and pick up a Poweramp straight away. I currently have them fed with some 30 quid /metre QED cabling - with the usual bannana plugs on each end (can't believe how much it actually cost! but worth it). Of course they are "bi wired". Reason why I am not happy with the 602s? Well it is a lie - I love them to bits, however they really don't 'fill' the room as well as something more powerful, has to be said I was thinking about the 705 NAUTILUS speakers and a REL Stratus sub - but these came up. Thoughts? |
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Drop it like it's hot
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At that price? You'd be mad not to...
Why so cheap though? And yes, a bi-amp or monobloc setup would be essential to get the most out of those speakers. They will like a fair bit of power to run at their best
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Drop it like it's hot
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Christ... Wish I had £2,000
Home cinema: Toshiba 42XV555DB Full HD LCD | Onkyo TX-SR705 | NAD C352 | Monitor Audio Bronze B2 | Monitor Audio Bronze C | Monitor Audio Bronze BFX | Yamaha NSC120 | BK Monolith sub | Toshiba HD-EP35 HD-DVD | Samsung BD-P1400 BluRay Player | Pioneer DV-575 | Squeezebox3 | Virgin Media V+ Box
PC: Asus P5B | Core2duo 2.13GHz | 2GB DDR2 PC6400 | Inno3d iChill 7900GS | Auzentech X-Plosion 7.1 | 250GB | 500GB | NEC DVDRW | Dual AG Neovo 19" HTPC: | Core2Duo E6420 2.13GHz | 2GB DDR2 | 250GBx2 | Radeon X1300 | Terratec Aureon 7.1 | Windows MCE 2005 Laptop: 1.5GHz Centrino | 512MB | 60GB | 15" Wide TFT | Wifi | DVDRW |
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If you can afford them, then go for it. I remember reading a review of the largest in the Nautilus range (may have been the 802s, can't remember TBH) when they first came out a few years ago, and they turned out to be a vicious load with impedance as low as 2 Ohms at some points. They were also very insensitive.
To get a lot of volume out of them you will need some meaty amps. It might be worth your while getting a big integrated of 150-200W or so, although if the power amps can be monobloc-ed to around that power they'll probably be OK. Rich :¬) |
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F.A.S.T.
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Oh - and dont worry too much about powering them, they are actually *easier* for your amp to drive then your old DM602s2's (91dB vs 88db) which means that when you set your amp to 1/3 volume for example, the 802's will actually be playing music louder than your 602's were.
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From The Grave
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91dB? Ignore my comments then. It must have been the next model up in the range.
Edit: done the research. The model I saw a review of was the 801, but the 802 seems to be a similar design replacing the single 15" woofer with twin 8"ers. The specs for both reckon: Sensitivity 91dB spl (2.83V 1m) Normal Impedance 8 ohms (minimum 3 ohms) Now, I'm pretty sure that Hi-Fi Choice measured the actual sensitivity (of the 801) at close to 82dB/W, and B+W admit themselves that at some points the impedance goes as low as 3 Ohms- that makes them a far from easy load. I would see how your current gear performs with them before spending any more on amplification, but my gut feeling is that you may need a lot more welly .Rich :¬) Last edited by Rave; 14-09-2004 at 02:15 PM. |
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Drop it like it's hot
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Like I said... Those are beefy speakers... You'll need welly
Home cinema: Toshiba 42XV555DB Full HD LCD | Onkyo TX-SR705 | NAD C352 | Monitor Audio Bronze B2 | Monitor Audio Bronze C | Monitor Audio Bronze BFX | Yamaha NSC120 | BK Monolith sub | Toshiba HD-EP35 HD-DVD | Samsung BD-P1400 BluRay Player | Pioneer DV-575 | Squeezebox3 | Virgin Media V+ Box
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HEXUS.timelord.
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very few things in life can hold the word "serious" for long. But those are "serious"
Absolute steal too. Its a bit like being offered a Porsche 911 Carrera for £7000. Even if you only had £500 you'd have to go borrow the dough to own it. Same thing here. Just get your wallet out and stop fannying around
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