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    Old 05-04-2007, 08:32 PM   #113 (permalink)
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    Howard, oh ok... Interestingly my tiny ASW675 is 500W RMS rated, I got it @ -10dB atm, to prevent it rattling like mad when playing Massive Attack at near reference (Angel, Dissolved Girl, etc)...

    I guess the floor standers (604S3s) also add some bass to the mix. Another shot I took a while ago, more or less the same now but Silent Bob is back in the cupboard...



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    Old 05-04-2007, 09:08 PM   #114 (permalink)
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    Little sealed subs like that need more power to make the equivalent noise though


    Nice setup, hide the wires and amps and UPS' please

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    Old 05-04-2007, 09:15 PM   #115 (permalink)
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    I thought it was simply that sealed enclosures were better at 'punchy' bass than sustained low tones?


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    Old 05-04-2007, 09:18 PM   #116 (permalink)
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    True!

    Bah...I ended setting it up with minimal component to component cabling. If I went for a fully 'stealthy' set up it would involve more cabling and I always feel that less is more.

    That said, this is *NOT* the final intended room for this setup, and is temporary for the next few years until I get off my bum and design a new HT room with the architect. This is currently in 3.1 mode lol.

    Everything is placed for optimal 'accessibility' but isn't the most pleasing to the eye. Turn the lights off an it doesn't matter though hehe. I would like to one day replace the three UPSses with a huge isolation transformer but the heat and cooling it would need would be fairly ridiculous maybe.

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    Update:

    I could move the UPSes oto the left, hiding them behind the left floor stander, as the huge DVD cabinet on the left creates a space suitable for this. Moving the amps is near impossible due to the cable lengths involved/required, so any funky ideas for sealing off the bottom part of the h000j console table? I could look into having a wooden 'frame' made that will sit inside, covering up the amps etc, or have two doors fitted?

    I'll still leave the sides open as that provides ample ventilation for the amps...

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    Old 05-04-2007, 09:24 PM   #117 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by dave87 View Post
    I thought it was simply that sealed enclosures were better at 'punchy' bass than sustained low tones?
    That too. But as the cabinet is smaller and tuned toward more tuneful bass like you said, more oomph is required to get it to hit the real low (20hz and below for example) notes. My subwoofer for example combines a big driver with a big cabinet, and is tuned to 20Hz, and goes down to about 15Hz with minimal distortion.

    The same analagy can be used with cars (albeit somewhat vice-versa) whereby a particular engine will allow a small car to go faster than the same engine in a car twice as long and heavy.

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    Old 05-04-2007, 09:33 PM   #118 (permalink)
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    Aye, iirc this B&W is tuned to 20Hz and any lower the distortion isn't exactly 'minimal'. Having a large vented sub like yours would do a much better job...but...needs room.

    Anyone here tried placing their subs in various room locations, or did you just pick one spot and 'go' with it?

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    Old 06-04-2007, 07:06 AM   #119 (permalink)
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    Nowhere else to stick it really, got a wardrobe in one corner, bed in one, and a door in the other

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    Old 06-04-2007, 12:11 PM   #120 (permalink)
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    Right here is my system, wires are a little messy behind it but that is because they are so long and I really don't want to cut them! I will try and get a better, less dark photo at some point, problem is our living room is very dark generally


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    Old 06-04-2007, 04:13 PM   #121 (permalink)
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    Right peeps, finally got round to taking some piccies (the wife is not in and she thinks its funny!) so here we go!





    Yes, that is Ready, Steady, Cook!

    The setup is:

    Panny TH37PV500,
    Onkyo 674e amp
    Mordaunt Short Premiere Plus
    Philips DVP-5960 dvd player
    Xbox 360
    Genus DAB radio addon
    <--- PC over here!

    Its great, but perhaps a little big for our flat!

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    Old 06-04-2007, 04:29 PM   #122 (permalink)
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    This is mine so here goes. Updated for 2009!



    Lineup as follows-

    Toshiba 27WL56 LCD TV

    Denon AVR2808

    SKY digibox

    HTPC (Silverstone case)

    Gaming PC is in a Akasa Eclipse 62 specs are in my system link & is connected to the projector screen though the AV amp.

    Not in pic
    Velodyne Deco speaker system (in a 6.1 configuration)
    Sanyo Z3 LCD Projector

    For more pics & info have a look at my site www.grimleyplex.net so take a look!


    here's the inside of the HTPC




    The HTPC is now the source for playing back DVD, Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, Freeview & Freesat/HD stuff, as well as HD files from the web (when I can be arsed)!

    The gaming rig is for general use too. I named it W.O.P.R. after the Computer in a film called ‘Wargames' (My eldest nephew suggested I gave it a name, so I humoured him!)

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    Old 11-04-2007, 07:21 AM   #123 (permalink)
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    so, you are capable of receiving LPCM!

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    Old 11-04-2007, 07:23 AM   #124 (permalink)
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    Cylinder (PC+) sub is 525w RMS & box is (PB12+/2) is 900w RMS.

    Signal is fed from amp by Y splitter fed into BFD (FBQ2496), calibrated and output to subs



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    Howard + Suniil sweeeeet subs you guys. What are they both rated at (RMS pls)?
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    Old 11-04-2007, 09:33 PM   #125 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by suniil View Post
    so, you are capable of receiving LPCM!
    Yep! I am still not 100% on all of the tech though. Once work quietens down after the 26th I will tweak my setup a touch. I will also install my speaker wire once the stitches in my shoulder are out! 14 stitches from coming off my mountain bike!

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    Old 13-04-2007, 04:21 AM   #126 (permalink)
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    you can pickup pre-owned HD DVD players for £200ish / Blu-rays for £250ish

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    Old 14-04-2007, 01:24 PM   #127 (permalink)
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    I got a scare last week with the Denon 3rd link...simple re-enable in the DVD player and it's back fine... very odd, first 'glitch' in a year so nm.

    Thinking of having a teak frame made with two doors attached (wooden) prolly be as huge as Menthel's (the doors) and attach to the front of the console table so that it gets closed/stealthed....the sides would be open for air circulation, and if I want these closed it can be two 'reverse' hinged doors that can be added later.

    This way the console table is not 'altered' and the frame will blend in perfectly....

    =)

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    you can pickup pre-owned HD DVD players for £200ish / Blu-rays for £250ish
    Or a brand new 360 add on for £130.


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