Avon tyres - any good?

[yamangman]

Just got one (ZZ3 I think) after a tyre suffered a puncture (front near side). Also, is there anything to be said for replacing both front tyres at the same time? The offside one is still in very good nick though.

[staffsMike]

You should never mix tyres on the same axel as far as I've been told.

Those avons are pretty good, I almost got them but the Toyo's I got instead were supposed to be be same grip just quieter and last a bit longer.

[dave87]

What are you replacing?

If its an Avon, go for it, if not, perhaps try the same manufacturer as your current rear tyres, and get a pair of those? i.e. Michelin, Pilot Sports or something etc.

Oh, and what car is it for?

[Zak33]

There's no LAW against having different tyres on the same axle....and sometimes you can't tell.

But other times...you can. BIG TIME,

ESP hates it. Gets very confused on some cars. ABS is fine though, as it monitors the tyres individually anyway. But ESP is preset to do certain things, and expects similar grip on the corners.

Big no no for 4x4 if you have that.

[Konan555]

ABS does monitor the rotation of the wheels relative to the others, however I believe it looks for one to be running significantly slower before taking action. Going to depend on how it's programmed from car to car.

Rather depends on the 4x4 system at work, some are more tolerant than others.

ESP doesn't even like you changing wheel sizes

[Zak33]

ABS does monitor the rotation of the wheels relative to the others, however I believe it looks for one to be running significantly slower before taking action. Going to depend on how it's programmed from car to car.

yup...many different types.

but most modern ones will sort out a miss matched tyre...but doesn't mean you wont slew round in a yaw-ing spin if the grip levels are massively different.

[Butuz]

Falken FK452 and Toyo T1 are muchy better than Avons.

Butuz

[Shad]

I have ZZ3s or ZV3s, whatever they are, on the back of my Volvo. They're black, round, rubbery and stop the rims from dragging on the ground

But, they used to be factory fitted to Caterhams and were widely regarded as appalling.

[yamangman]

Well I've already bought the bugger

I had a pair of continental sport contact 2's on the rear so I've but those on the drive axle and swapped the other two 'round the back (the other was a Vredestein btw, not sure of model). All seems well so far and haven't noted any problems with the ESP.

[sleepyhead]

I've have ZZ3s on the rear at the moment. After a few months with them I can definitely say (inclusive of a trackday too) the Falkens FK452 were MUCH better. Even better than that were the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3. But so far it looks like the Avons are lasting longer than the other two, of which the Eagles were bald in less than 5 months. The fronts are still Eagles though after, 15,000 miles, with plenty of tread left. I guess I'm abit heavy footed. Oops.

[dave87]

What car have you got sleepyhead? I'm guessing a reasonably powerful rear wheel drive one?

[sleepyhead]

Oh just a boring MX5 with 250 ponies on tap. Nothing special in the grand scheme of things.

Just the grippier tires inspire more confidence...and it doesn't help a great deal with a twin plate clutch and 1.5way clutch type diff.