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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Hmmm. If this is released this year, I might opt for a BD and SI build at Christmas rather than wait till next "spring" for an Ivy and Kepler build. Fingers crossed!

    Also, with the way BD is built, do you think (I know, I know. You can't tell yet ) premium RAM will have much of an effect on performance, unlike current Sandy Bridge?

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Obviously it's just a guess, but I'd say probably not - CPUs now generally don't see much of an improvement with different RAM speeds. Llano is different, it has a relatively powerful IGP and GPUs of that type are very dependant on bandwidth. You can see this even in discrete GPUs, quite a few low-mid range cards offer different types of RAM with the faster types outperforming the others by a fair margin.

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Llano benefits from faster RAM due to the IGP. For the CPU in most cases it does not make such a big difference.

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    "AMD is seriously considering selling its boxed FX series processors with a liquid cooling solution (LCS) bundled in. It's a move that would make its FX silicon more overclockable, while also upping the chip maker's street cred among power users, provided the LCS doesn't suck."

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    As long as thye have an option to buy it without it, dont really have to be bothered to sell it off myself.

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    already have a solid LCS thankyou very much amd, please dont go down that road! Id rather not have a crappy 120mm rad all in one bundled in, id rather use my current setup (ek surpeme block, 360mm high end rad, 240mm medium rad... sure they wont fit that in a cpu box!).
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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks12 View Post
    already have a solid LCS thankyou very much amd, please dont go down that road! Id rather not have a crappy 120mm rad all in one bundled in, id rather use my current setup (ek surpeme block, 360mm high end rad, 240mm medium rad... sure they wont fit that in a cpu box!).
    If they did I would rip there hands off i would still stick with my Thermochill and Dtek though

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    So what's the final release date for bulldozer?
    i know a couple of friends who opted for sandy bridge because it seems like AMD is dragging it.

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by Walker View Post
    So what's the final release date for bulldozer?


    Sorry, thread tl;dr?

    No-one knows yet, because it hasn't been announced. Best available rumour is 19th September. As mentioned several times in the last 2 - 3 pages of this thread. And now the thread is 2 posts longer because you couldn't be bothered to spend 5 minutes flicking through it. I'm sure your time is very precious, but seriously, you couldn't afford five minutes?

    Who started this thread, CAT? Maybe we could edit the first post with the latest known release dates and performance speculation? Not sure people would even read the first post though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks12 View Post
    already have a solid LCS thankyou very much amd, please dont go down that road! Id rather not have a crappy 120mm rad all in one bundled in, id rather use my current setup (ek surpeme block, 360mm high end rad, 240mm medium rad... sure they wont fit that in a cpu box!).
    It'll probably just be a self-contained water cooling kit, for the CPU alone with a 120mm radiator/fan.


    Quote Originally Posted by Walker View Post
    So what's the final release date for bulldozer?
    i know a couple of friends who opted for sandy bridge because it seems like AMD is dragging it.
    There's no official date yet but it's rumoured to be rolling out in September (maybe).

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    That was a lot of reading!

    A bit of advice please guys.. Intel i5 build now, or go for an AM3+ board with an ok cpu and wait for BD? Will it go straight in, without any other upgrade requirements?

    I like the sound of 8 cores @ 4ghz+

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    AM3+ is meant for BD, the most you might need is a BIOS update.

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    If you buy AM3+ now (and there's not many AM3+ boards about still, so you're limiting your choice if you do) you're tieing yourself in to BD when you know nothing about its performance. No-one can actually tell you which is the better option now, because we don't know how BD will perform.

    Assuming you're looking at replacing your "My System" rig, the correct option is to sit on your hands until Bulldozer is released, then make a reasoned decision based on performance reviews. You're on a Q6600 + GTS250, which is still a decent rig, and I'd be amazed if you actually *need* more performance than that provides. Any AM3+ system you built now that was cheap enough to be disposable when BD comes out would be at best a sideways move from your current system.

    If this isn't just a straight replacement of that rig, let us know what the requirements are! You can get decent performance from about £90-worth of (BD-supporting) AM3+ motherboard + Athlon II CPU, and it may be that's worth the risk even if when BD's launched you decide to get Sandy Bridge anyway (the RAM, GPU, etc will all transfer between builds).

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post


    Sorry, thread tl;dr?

    No-one knows yet, because it hasn't been announced. Best available rumour is 19th September. As mentioned several times in the last 2 - 3 pages of this thread. And now the thread is 2 posts longer because you couldn't be bothered to spend 5 minutes flicking through it. I'm sure your time is very precious, but seriously, you couldn't afford five minutes?

    Who started this thread, CAT? Maybe we could edit the first post with the latest known release dates and performance speculation? Not sure people would even read the first post though...
    I thought it was mid August last time I checked ... oh well , Im not in any rush

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    It seems the server Orochi die is 315MM2:

    http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/21/a...r-die-size-is/

    However,it has more HT links than the consumer Bulldozer CPU. Unless,the consumer Bulldozer CPU uses the same die with the additional HT links disabled it does seem Bulldozer will be around 300MM2.

    Bulldozer might ship next week:

    http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...he-next-week/1

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Out of interest, any news on transistor count?

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