AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

[Hicks12]

hmm maybe so but does that really help people who are enthusiasts if you contemplating the 8150 i presume youd have at least a £150 card with it so for us its a negligible improvement hehe

[EvanJackPenn]

hmm maybe so but does that really help people who are enthusiasts if you contemplating the 8150 i presume youd have at least a £150 card with it so for us its a negligible improvement hehe

Yesss, I'm thinking of getting the 7950. I think that'd go well with the 8150

What are the 9 series chipsets like? Any good?

[CivilDrone]

Any updates on when it will comeout? gettin tired of silly dates on which nothing happends. disasembled my 1st rig simply becouse dozer was suppose to come out, now bought 1090t again, and wish to sell it before price on them drops to an equivalent of bigmac. Anyone?

[EvanJackPenn]

October the 21st IIRC. I think that's the official date now.

[Bagnaj97]

What are the 9 series chipsets like? Any good?

As far as I know they're the same as the 8 series but with better power management. I've just bought a GA-970a-UD3 motherboard and it's been fine so far. OCd my Athlon II X3 450 to 4GHz without any problems. So far a thumbs up from me

[shaithis]

Gah. Nice one, throwing a spanner in the works. Get the 8150 or wait for Super-bulldozer?

The part about PD coming to AM3+ means there seems to be very little reason to wait because you'll have a good trade-up path.

[Pob255]

October the 21st IIRC. I think that's the official date now.

it's getting rather hard to suggest an amd system over an intel sb now.

The problem with the potential upgrade is we still have little idea how good BD is, so spending almost as much on cpu+motherboard now for a later potential upgrade, over a known good performance cpu&motherboard for almost as much is just not looking like good value for money.

[CivilDrone]

Got a 990fxa-ud3 + 1090T setup now, sure 2005k beats it but not by much, also price difference is silly.. hoping dozer gonna be at least as good as 2005k but then again, games runnin fine so far, not bothered

[Biscuit]

I would like to say AMD have done a pretty good job at keeping the performance under wraps, however there have been quite a few leaked benchmarks (albeit from engineering models). So far they have been quite disappointing and by now in most cases there has been something relatively concrete which is a good indicator towards the chips performance.

The 'delays' dont seem to have done much to help fill me with confidence with excuses floating around about llano having high demand and low yield. Yes i know there wasn't any official release date anyway but i think it is quite clear AMD had intended on releasing this a lot earlier. I cant seem to shake the feeling that im hoping bulldozer is going to be something special when in reality, if it was any other company releasing something of this magnitude, i would be taking the signs more seriously.

It could all just be bollocks made up by some wierdos intent on stirring the pot for no reason, i certainly hope so, especially seeing as i just bought a 990FX motherboard :s

[kopite]

I hope so too as I`m waiting on concrete info about these before sorting out my main pc.

[kalniel]

I would like to say AMD have done a pretty good job at keeping the performance under wraps, however there have been quite a few leaked benchmarks (albeit from engineering models). So far they have been quite disappointing and by now in most cases there has been something relatively concrete which is a good indicator towards the chips performance.

It's a good point that I think is indicative of AMD's strategy in general - they kept the 6900 series GPU performance very well under wraps and managed to surprise nVidia by it (the 6990 in particular kept the performance crown in part because nVidia were expecting it to perform worse IMHO). The good news from that example is that keeping things under wraps isn't necessarily a negative move, it can be to prevent competitors releasing spoiler chips or responses - the impact of a well performing bulldozer chip would be somewhat less if Intel had already reduced Sandy Bridge prices to a lower level or released higher end chips for the same price (which they seem to have the margins for). Leaked ES performance can be all part of the subterfuge.

[Terbinator]

http://www.techpowerup.com/152569/AM...enchmarks.html

[Biscuit]

http://www.techpowerup.com/152569/AM...enchmarks.html

yayy

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

http://www.techpowerup.com/152569/AM...enchmarks.html

These might be fake. There are some slides which are part of the presentation which are not shown in the link. The HandBrake results for the Intel system are done under OS X!!

[Bagnaj97]

http://www.techpowerup.com/152569/AM...enchmarks.html

Why in the last slide is AMD's ram so much cheaper? DDR3 is DDR3...

[shaithis]

One of two reasons that I can think off....although both are a stretch:

1. Triple channel vs dual channel kits

2. The 980x system should come with ECC RAM....