AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

[DanceswithUnix]

Looks like we might find out for sure soon, if silicon has indeed been shipping for a while.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24506

Hadn't heard anything on the Brazos replacement for a long time, wonder what that will be like.

[Biscuit]

It would not be surprising to see Ivy Bridge best Trinity on a graphics front and the power efficiency front as well, but AMD may yet stay competitive on a pricing basis. In the meantime, it can enjoy a couple months of dominance.

Really? I wouldn't have though Intel would even touch AMD for graphics.

[watercooled]

It would not be surprising to see Ivy Bridge best Trinity on a graphics front

Well it would be for me considering the IVB chip Anand reviewed is beat handily by even Llano. Maybe he meant CPU performance?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Who are you chaps answering??

Anyway,considering that most desktop IB chips will have the HD2500 IGP and even the Core i3 CPUs won't be out for a while,AMD will have some wiggle room for a while methinks. Even on the laptop front it is hard to gauge which laptops will do better overall. The HD6620G already had better performance/watt than the HD3000 and the HD7660M is probably better in that regard too.

[DanceswithUnix]

I just assumed that was a CPU -> GPU typo.

[DanceswithUnix]

They are quoting a bit of the article I linked to, unless the article is fixed now

Edit to add: Nope, still says that.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Ah,OK!

There is also the Intel drivers to contend with. I hope reviews also look at actual image quality too.

[watercooled]

And video support i.e. frame rate, codecs, filters, etc, etc. Intel have been notoriously poor for that, hence why people will still get a discrete card for HTPCs if they use an Intel CPU (although why you'd want to do that over a capable IGP is beyond me, in terms of price, power consumption, noise, size, etc).

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

This chap has had Trinity samples for the last few months:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-p...ml#post8463259

AFAIK,he supposedly works for HP(I think).

"Now, when I think about what my new trin box is going to be able to do (25-30 percent increase on the cpu and 50-60 on the graphics- BEFORE overclocking that old AMD Grin is starting to re-emerge
May 15 is coming, and soon"

It seems May 15th is probably the release date for Trinity.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Quoted wrong thing!!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It seems the base clockspeed has now increased to 2.5GHZ and maximum boost clockspeed has decreased to 3.1GHZ:

http://item.gmarket.co.kr/detailview...earch_keyword=

The IGP runs at 685MHZ too.

Supposedly,the HD7670M is VLIW4 based and I wonder if the HD7000 series cards under the HD7750 will be actually new VLIW4 derived ones and not rebrands.

Edit!!

It seems the HD7670M is based on the HD6670 and hence is VLIW5 based:

http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?p=678078791

I managed to miss the fact the say the HD7660M scores 1135 in 3DMark11.

That is much higher than both the laptop and mobile HD4000 versions:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5771/t...770k-review/19

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1914/11/

[vrgomes]

I have one HTPC with zacate and it's working great. Is this brazos he evolution of zacate?

Greetings.

[DanceswithUnix]

I have one HTPC with zacate and it's working great. Is this brazos he evolution of zacate?

Greetings.

Brazos 2 will be.

Too many code names for this product. 2 Bobcat cores and a GPU make a Brazos die. If that Brazos die is set to have an 18W thermal design power, then it is called a Zacate or E-series.

The official names are as complicated as the code names, so I think most of us just stick with Bobcat core if talking about just the CPU, and Brazos if talking about E-series, C-series or Z-series

The thing is, they are talking about having an 18W version of Trinity. Now that would rock as a netbook, so if the cost isn't too high might end up as the real replacement for Zacate.

[mikeo01]

Hi quick question related to bulldozer (no replies on my thread ) what is the safe voltage range for the FX series?

My vcore hits 1.55 with CPU VID set to 1.45 on air.

Also is having CPU/CPU/NB load line calibration and CPU power phase set to extreme dangerous?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It looks like AMD has taken marketshare away from Intel:

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/pc-c...n-intel-in-q1/

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editori...ooking-Forward

It seems BD based server CPUs have meant AMD server sales have been increasing for the last three quarters.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

This chap says he has a Trinity laptop and is going to run some benchmarks:

http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6402

It seems to be a Llano A6 laptop using the HD7520G IGP. I suspect it could a dual core version.