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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    It could be tricky by the sounds of it, in the same way it's hard to know if lower clock 'notches' will be stable when using offset undervolting. I wonder if the throttling is detectable by software e.g. a drop in reported clock speed?

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    whats the wattage tdp of that slot powered 7850?

    could there *maybe* be an ondie version soon?

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    The PCI-E slot can supply upto 75W.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    6670 uses 58w peak according to tpu.... hmmmm could be close to an on die 7850 maybe?

    would totally blow away anything intel can make this or next year

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Power aside, I suspect die size could start to become a problem at that point, unless we're talking the next node? Also, bandwidth is an obvious concern, but DDR4 can't be that far off, and we have those GDDR5 rumours. I wonder how that would work though, you can't just buy GDDR5 modules! On-board memory isn't a great solution for desktop IMO, but maybe as a stopgap if necessary?

    Edit: Just realised I've skipped over a page or two of the thread, and that was already brought up.
    Last edited by watercooled; 04-06-2013 at 04:41 PM.

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    GDDR5 would work lovely for sideport ram.

    Edit to add: Just leave me some DDR3/4 sockets to fill/upgrade as well.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Where are all the Richland reviews??

    Come on AMD,the chips are already available.

    I really hope they send out the A10-6700. It was utter fail they did not advertise the A10-5700 more.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    GDDR5 would work lovely for sideport ram.

    Edit to add: Just leave me some DDR3/4 sockets to fill/upgrade as well.
    Sideport RAM could be a return to something like the Amiga chipram / fastram divide. Which would be few steps backwards and the total opposite of HSA. Mind you, back when there was 'unequal' RAM (and I'm including the early Mac's 24-bit addressing and Atari's TT and Falcon here), operating systems were a lot more primitive and MNU were either not used or poorly supported so a modern OS could make this transparent. Or a modern OS could handle this with a bit (lot?) or kernel patching.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Modern OSes already understand NUMA, and I have a couple of machines around here with AM2+ motherboards with sideport ram on them which work fine with Win7 and Linux.

    It helped with just 40 old shaders on the chipset to have a 32 bit ram chip attached (I think on my board it is 128MB of DDR3), I imagine the idea would benefit modern machines a lot more.

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    apparently theres an NDA on richland?? so anyone buying it can actually review It before the websites!

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    I would give you "thanks" if I could Cat . Great find!

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    the OC 3dmark score is better than my kids pc

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/240666


    but


    if the scores from anand are right its LOWER than iris pro

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/i...50hq-tested/16

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalloweenJack View Post
    the OC 3dmark score is better than my kids pc

    if the scores from anand are right its LOWER than iris pro
    Of course it's lower. Iris pro is a big iGPU with large L4. A brute force attack in engineering and pricing terms . It's not directly comparable to 6800K as it will be much cheaper than any GT3e enabled desktop part (if intel decides to launch such a thing).

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    I wonder how the kerfuffle about Haswell needing uber-low power idle support on the PSU is playing out? Platform idle power looks lower than 1155 but it's not something I can see causing problems for any remotely recent/decent PSU.

    Oh and about the 'on-board VRM', I'm still seeing caps, inductors and heatsink'd FETs on 1150 motherboards. Maybe it's just the PWM controller that's been moved on-board, as I predicted?

    Edit: The smaller die on the CPU package is the L4/Crystalwell memory.

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