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    Old 03-10-2007, 09:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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    Election And Stuff.

    So, if the one-eyed Scotsman reckons the time is right, we could have one of those general election things on our hands very soon.

    Lets leave the Lib Dems out of this, as they have no chance of power, Ming could obviously never be allowed control of the country, when he probably has limited control of his bladder, their last leader was a piss artist, and Lembit Opik is having sexual intercourse with one half of the Cheeky Girls.

    Firstly, should McCyclops call an election? He hasn't been voted in, we (well, some of you) voted for trust me Tony, who promisededed on his moms life that he would serve a full term, then had it away on his toes. So the people should get a voice on the issue, yes? Right thing to do and all that.

    If there was an election tomorrow, where would your vote go? Left or Right? Red or Blue? I suppose if you are a Lib Dem voter, you can post and say so, but really, who cares? A Lib Dem voter is as important to the future of this country as yesterday’s weather forecast.

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    Old 03-10-2007, 09:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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    The brave Red Lefty for me
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    Old 03-10-2007, 09:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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    He wont call an election but if there was my vote would be for Flash.

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    Old 03-10-2007, 09:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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    Thats Numberwang.

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    Old 03-10-2007, 11:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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    Re: Election And Stuff.

    To be honest its that kind of attitude of 'wasted votes' that stops any kind of real political change in this country. IMO there is precisely zero difference between the Tories and Labor and I can well imagine that the Tories would have taken us into an illegal war and made all the same mistakes. They might not have banned hunting though.

    If your not happy with the current government and you really want to see some changes, a vote for lib dem or an independent is much better than maintaining the status quo in my eyes.

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    Old 03-10-2007, 11:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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    I would probably go for flash as well. if the conservatives had got in in 1997 i'd still be loving in a council house rather than a house my mam owns

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    Old 03-10-2007, 11:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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    oh yeah... great reasoning that.

    Under Labor we have had insane increases in house prices. So if you want to look at the election of a new government from an individual point of view why don't you consider the fact that you won't be owning your own home until your 40. Also consider the fact that your the chances of you ever getting a council house to live in are nil because of depleted housing stock not being replaced.

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    Old 04-10-2007, 12:08 AM   #8 (permalink)
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    Changing government changes nothing. If I could I would actually got to the polls and make a vote for indifference, the "your all crap, I vote none of the above" vote.
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    Old 04-10-2007, 12:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
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    all the 'council houses' round here were sold to an independent company called shoreline housing by a conservative local government. and the house price increase was led by lenders giving out ever bigger mortgages rather than the government.

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    Old 04-10-2007, 12:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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    Labour have been so shockingly incompetent it would be impossible to vote for them. I honestly can't think of one thing that has improved since they've come to power, other than Northern Ireland. It's hard to think of one thing that hasn't got worse in fact..... NHS, education, housing market, economy (supposedly strong, but far higher cost of living since they came to power and hence worse for the average bloke).

    On the other hand seems like Dave is now going in for the whole spin thing which is very off-putting after the horror of Blair-Campbell, so while Ming seems like a weakish leader (and come on, who the flock pronounces 'menzies' 'ming'?), Lib Dems seem the most sensible route. As G4Z points out, you have to vote for them so they can increase their proportion to the point where it counts.... they got 20% last year so not far really to go...... and Lembit is quite sensible if you ignore his sexual tastes
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    Old 04-10-2007, 12:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by alsenior View Post
    the house price increase was led by lenders giving out ever bigger mortgages rather than the government.
    The government set interest rates though, and they set them low, encouraging lenders to offer silly deals.
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    Old 04-10-2007, 06:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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    Howay for The Merciless.
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    Old 04-10-2007, 06:40 AM   #13 (permalink)
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    The government set interest rates though, and they set them low, encouraging lenders to offer silly deals.
    Wrong - as of 1997 the Bank of England sets rates independently.

    Prior to that the incompetent Tories set rates, hence 15% as the UK crashed out of the ERM.

    Complaining that house prices have risen under Labour is a bit like complaining that we haven't had a decent summer in three years under Labour.

    Think I'll have to vote Lib Dem. The only remotely credible parties are Labour and Lib Dem, and I won't vote in favour of ID cards or the National Identity Register no matter what.

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    Old 04-10-2007, 06:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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    to be honest, Labour have smegged up this country and made it a complete poodle to the yanks.

    i would never vote tory.... they screwed up the countries network infrastructure the day maggie thatcher privatised BT

    i guess that only leaves ming the merciless left really....

    either that or i will vote for the communist party or something.... who knows
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    Old 04-10-2007, 07:18 AM   #15 (permalink)
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    Re: Election And Stuff.

    Good points Jpreston, I do not disagree at all, especially with you on the ID card NIR issue. I would make the point that while the rise in house prices is not directly down to Labor, the complete and total lack of help for first time buyers is. The only thing they have done is this housing assosication thing where the govt buys half the house and you can buy it later, great idea however only available to those who earn pretty much nowt (I know and looked into it), and therefore if your in that middle ground where you earn a decent wage but can't stretch to buying a house your screwed. Also for a 'socialist' government they really have screwed over the low paid by abolishing the lowest tax band and handing a 2p cut to higher earners. While that will benefit me I think its a shocking thing for a Labor government to do and strikes me as a very Tory move. There is also the issue of Browns tax raid on pensions that mean the pension that I and many others who joined the workforce in the last decade got will be crap (if you got one at all from your company).

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    Old 04-10-2007, 07:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
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    You all seem to be forgetting that when you vote - you are not voting for which party you would like to see in government but which candidate becomes your local MP. In my constituency the Labour are the party that never get in, it's always between the Tories and Lib Dems. The leader of the governing party is then chosen deomcratically by the party.
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