Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

[santa claus]

Ahhh rallying the troops to justify lock down? You can be assured that all those with several thousand posts will support you. They are very well trained.

[TiG]

Santa claus isn't coming to my house this year it seems

But if you've been banned you've generally deserved it on here. Complaining about a friend/other halfs/cousin twice removed ban, which is what this is, veiled as a freedom of speech thread has got every hexus member posting against the OP.

Think that says it all. Hexus community always tends to self regulate, always has hope it always will

Anyway Santa Claus if you don't like it here i'm sure there are other places you might like. Anyway you should be too busy this time of the year getting ready for Christmas

TiG

[Whiternoise]

I think that people who get banned on Hexus, tend to get banned not simply because they were expressing some view of theirs, but because they do it in a way that breaches forum rules. Certainly the mods don't just have BLAMMO button (well, with the exception of Nick perhaps).

IE. Saying, "I think that the generally accepted view of the Nazi's being bad people is wrong - <insert mature reason why>" wouldn't get you banned, but saying "Those Nazi's had the right idea, we should let all the Jews burn" would get you one big step closer.

It's all about how you say it in my opinion. I mean, it's all very well promoting freedom of speech, but if your so narrow minded that you won't let other members insert their views on the subject, then you may as well be banned. I haven't seen the thread in question (that presumably led to this topic's creation), but in my experience, the mods on this forum generally have the right idea - certainly i've agreed with most, if not all, of their decisions regarding problems cropping up. In some of the more serious and tense discussions that this forum has had, regarding current affairs and whatnot, yes tempers have flared, but the mods have always done a superb job of cooling the situation down without causing any lasting hurt.

And there are certainly a couple of mods that i just wouldn't want to cross anyway

Merry Christmas and all that..

[Agent]

Originally Posted by santa claus

Ahhh rallying the troops to justify lock down? You can be assured that all those with several thousand posts will support you. They are very well trained.

Not at all. I have no intention of locking this thread unless its obviously getting out of hand.

Its not a matter of "being trained". You're talking like we are forcing people to post here. Those that are "well trained" stay here because they want to.

If I started to question how a forum was being run that I was posting on, I think I'd just find another forum that suited my tastes, as opposed to trying to find reasons to justifying me continuing to post.
Thats just me though

[Zak33]

what have I walked into?

Seems like I should have worked from home today!

[santa claus]

Originally Posted by Whiternoise

And there are certainly a couple of mods that i just wouldn't want to cross anyway

Sort of negates the rest of your post:-).

I do like it here Agent. I like discussion. I don't have to be agreed with all the time like the mod in the other thread....

[Zak33]

ahh......quick read-back and all is clear....

Satan Claws is asking questions of the masses....cool

Ask away, big boy.

[Whiternoise]

Originally Posted by santa claus

Sort of negates the rest of your post:-).

Ahem. SARCASM. Ahem.

[Lucio]

What I do find ironic is you get into trouble, you get a ban, so you create an alt to start a debate that's a thinly veiled attempt to get support rallying against your ban or against the mod that banned you.

Surely that's gonna cause you more trouble than it's gonna solve???

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Anyhow, quite frankly this place is no different to any other social gathering, you create a fuss and act out, you get shunned. Think about it, you're in a pub, you're watching football, everyone is discussing the merits of the 4-4-2 system vs a 5-3-1 and you start going on about how the ref cheated your team last game. At first people tell you to STFU, it's not relevant to the fun discussion they're having, you ignore that and it looks like a fight's gonna break out so the police come along and throw you out and tells you to cool off.

I could give loads of other analogy's but my point is simple, the right of free speech isn't the same as the right to say whatever the hell you like. It's the right to hold an opinion and express that opinion in a reasonable manner.

[menthel]

Originally Posted by Zak33

ahh......quick read-back and all is clear....

Satan Claws is asking questions of the masses....cool

Ask away, big boy.

I do love being represented in such a way!

This place is very nicely moderated in my opinion. I have never had any problems with the way that the moderators have acted in this forum. People who cross them seem to be treated with relative leniency and only banned when really necessary.

Just remember peeps, this is the internet with a bunch of people that you (in 99% of cases) you don't know. Don't get too excited or fiesty!

[Zak33]

Lucio....that's simply perfect. A perfect descrioption, and leads to Agents thoughts that, if you don't like the place, you go find somewhere more suited to your tastes.

I think Santa DOES like it here, but he/she may be looking for acceptance.

Santa...I accept you.

[menthel]

Group hug?

[santa claus]

Originally Posted by Lucio

What I do find ironic is you get into trouble, you get a ban, so you create an alt to start a debate that's a thinly veiled attempt to get support rallying against your ban or against the mod that banned you. Surely that's gonna cause you more trouble than it's gonna solve?

I'm sorry this is not the case. I am not the person from the other thread and started this one to genuinely get thoughts about forum usage. I hadn't expected such a tirade. Is everyone being too defensive/overly sensitive?

[Disturbedguy]

I personally dont feel that this kind of thread is needed.

I have read the other thread but will keep my opinions on the matter to myself.

Personally, I cant see the reason that this thread was started, it wasn't you that got suspended, it wasnt one of your good friends (or was it) or anyone else you know well?

Rules are put in place to keep things running smoothly and to prevent unhealthy conversation, abuse of people and any of the other nasties that may pop up on some forums.

I havent been a HEXUS member for long and I dont post all that often, I like taking part in some conversation, not all, i try to take part in subjects I know something apart or may affect me in some way, whether its something am going to buy, somewhere am going on holiday or a service thats being offered by a company.

The above is coming from someone who has recieved an infraction for posting something irrelevant to the thread, I accepted that I shouldnt of posted in the thread and took the infraction and havent done what I did that day again.

Infact, the issue in question, is the only time I have read about a Mod or Admin banning or suspending someone and ive been hear a year give or take a few days.

I can assure you am not one of the well trained and certainly not one of the people with thousands of posts, am just a community member who enjoys visiting these forums on a daily basis, even when at Uni when I should be doing work (HEXUS if I fail this year, your paying for me to retake the year )

[Lucio]

Originally Posted by menthel

Group hug?

Only if you're female and cute I'm afraid

Real men don't group hug other men, it's always one on one with vigorous back slapping designed to inflict enough pain to negate any chance of pleasure being taken by one party or the other.

[Zak33]

Originally Posted by santa claus

I'm sorry this is not the case. I am not the person from the other thread and started this one to genuinely get thoughts about forum usage. I hadn't expected such a tirade. Is everyone being too defensive/overly sensitive?

yup...we're all very sensitive, quite soft souls. TiG is in a pink padded cell, with furry cuff links holding him down, and I myself am hidden behind my sofa, and only look overt the top, at the screen, in case anyone says I'm a badperson.....