A lesson in responsible parenting

[Rave]

BBC NEWS | England | Essex | Girl, 7, in fatal quad bike crash

Originally Posted by BBC

A woman, 28, who was driving the Range Rover, was arrested on suspicion of causing death by careless driving while unfit through drink or drugs.

The woman, from the Brentwood area, was bailed until New Year's Eve.

The crash occurred in Fingrith Hall Lane, just outside the village of Blackmore, on Boxing Day.

The girl and her brother were both riding their new bikes behind their father's Range Rover when the accident occurred.

Any chance they could arrest the father for being an irresponsbile moron?

[arbitor]

Idiots..

Do not give your kids any form of motorized off road transport unless you have substantial acreage

[Aez]

7 year old girl on a quad bike... who in their right mind lets a 7 year old on a quad bike let alone drive it on a road.

[Lucio]

Well, shouldn't the manufacturers just be banned from selling these in the UK? How many more fatal or near fatal accidents to people need on quad bikes before the manufacturers are bought to task over such dangerous pieces of equipment?

[Lee @ SCAN]

Originally Posted by Lucio

Well, shouldn't the manufacturers just be banned from selling these in the UK? How many more fatal or near fatal accidents to people need on quad bikes before the manufacturers are bought to task over such dangerous pieces of equipment?

So... let me get this right it's the manufacturers fault because some people use it in a dangerous way?

using that logic, Knives, Axes and everything sharp should also be banned just because of possibility of injury and death caused by the misuse of their products.

There are plenty of people out there who use motorised quads etc in the right way without causing any issues. Why spoil it for them because of a minority?

[usxhe190]

Originally Posted by Lucio

Well, shouldn't the manufacturers just be banned from selling these in the UK? How many more fatal or near fatal accidents to people need on quad bikes before the manufacturers are bought to task over such dangerous pieces of equipment?

weird comment alert

as for the incident, the dad shouldn't let the girl drive on the public roads. let them play with quad bikes on the farm with supervison.
i am also assuming that the dad brought them children quad bikes and gave them helmets to wear...

[shelley bda]

Originally Posted by Lucio

Well, shouldn't the manufacturers just be banned from selling these in the UK? How many more fatal or near fatal accidents to people need on quad bikes before the manufacturers are bought to task over such dangerous pieces of equipment?

People need to take responsibility for themselves and their actions before manufacturers start being penalised. It's not like the Kids had took off without the Parents knowing, their Dad was there! how bloody moronic is that? he's as much to blame as anyone for the crash for letting them out on a public road with them in the first place.

[Lucio]

Originally Posted by shelley bda

People need to take responsibility for themselves and their actions before manufacturers start being penalised. It's not like the Kids had took off without the Parents knowing, their Dad was there! how bloody moronic is that? he's as much to blame as anyone for the crash for letting them out on a public road with them in the first place.

I disagree, they're manufacturering a quad bike sized so small, that a 7 year old could operate it, which IMO is irresponsible. Yes of course the parents need to be held accountable but some portion of blame resides with the manufacturers because the product is designed for an age group that isn't responsible for their actions. This is in much the same way children's toys are designed with certain safety measures in mind, they're designed to be used by someone who doesn't understand what they're doing all the time and in such a way to minimise accidents.

[dave87]

Not to go against the prevailing thread of this topic - but the comment by BRAKE at the end winds me up. The misguided 'safety campaign' is advocating banning children from using them. What they should instead be arguing for is the creation of the safe environments for children to experience them on.

There is a prevalent view in society that if something is potentially dangerous it should be banned. I would argue that rather than simply banning them, we should teach people the pros and cons, enable them to do it in a safe environment under controlled conditions. That is how I learnt, and I'm not dead. Yet.

[Funkstar]

I would be very surprised if the manufacturer doesn't recomend full protective gear and says that the bikes are for off road use only.

I know of several family whos children have grown up riding these things as well as small trail bikes on their farms. These are a very useful means of getting about when working the farm, deliverying lambs etc. But then their parents aren't complete idiots, so they haven't been run over by a drunk mother in a range rover.

[arbitor]

Originally Posted by Lucio

Well, shouldn't the manufacturers just be banned from selling these in the UK? How many more fatal or near fatal accidents to people need on quad bikes before the manufacturers are bought to task over such dangerous pieces of equipment?

I assume your joking....

If your not thats the single most idiotic thing I have heard this xmas.

The small qaud bikes are a huge seller, to adventure holiday places, summer camps, everywhere they are perfectly safe if driven correctly and can be operated by anyone who is over about 3.5ff tall.

As said i find it amazing you can blame the manufacturer, I know they recommend helmet and protective wear as friends of mine use to have them. They are also illegal on the road.

So you tell me how that is susuki`s fault that some prat let his kid drive it on the road?

God you people annoy me

[Magnets]

Originally Posted by Lucio

I disagree, they're manufacturering a quad bike sized so small, that a 7 year old could operate it, which IMO is irresponsible.

Yes of course the parents need to be held accountable but some portion of blame resides with the manufacturers because the product is designed for an age group that isn't responsible for their actions.

A child is not able to just buy a quad bike themselves, their parents buy it. It's up to the parents to decide if their children are going to be safe using such a machine.
This makes the parents responsible, not the child nor the manufacturer.

[Bluecube]

It seems to me that everyone has totally missed what has happened here - some drugged up bint who shouldn't have been out driving in the first place who crashed into the kids. I don't get how the father was irresponsible. He wasn't the person who got them killed. The children were in control of their bikes and weren't doing anything stupid.

There's nothing wrong with teaching children to be responsible by exposing them to risks and letting them make their own decisions. The fact that children aren't allowed to do so is the result of typical namby pambyism that rules British life these days.

[Magnets]

Originally Posted by Bluecube

It seems to me that everyone has totally missed what has happened here - some drugged up bint who shouldn't have been out driving in the first place who crashed into the kids. I don't get how the father was irresponsible. He wasn't the person who got them killed. The children were in control of their bikes and weren't doing anything stupid.

It says she was arrested on suspicion, so that means they breathalysed her and she was over the limit?
Fair point, i missed that.

But you don't know what the kids were doing, they were probably not doing anything stupid, but who knows. Those little quads are not designed to be on the road with 2 tonne vehicles, especially not ridden by kids. The parents put them in a dangerous situation.

[arbitor]

Originally Posted by Bluecube

There's nothing wrong with teaching children to be responsible by exposing them to risks and letting them make their own decisions. The fact that children aren't allowed to do so is the result of typical namby pambyism that rules British life these days.

YES THERE IS ITS ILLEGAL


You cant drive qauds on the bloody road

[b0redom]

Originally Posted by Lucio

they're manufacturering a quad bike sized so small, that a 7 year old could operate it, which IMO is irresponsible.

Think of the midgets......