Gordy proposes logging all phone and internet communications

[aidanjt]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...berties.labour

Originally Posted by Article

In the Queen's speech this autumn Gordon Brown's government will announce a scheme to institute a database of every telephone call, email, and act of online usage by every resident of the UK. It will propose that this information will be gathered, stored, and "made accessible" to the security and law enforcement agencies, local councils, and "other public bodies".

This fact should be in equal parts incredible and nauseating. It is certainly enraging and despicable. Not even George Orwell in his most febrile moments could have envisaged a world in which every citizen could be so thoroughly monitored every moment of the day, spied upon, eavesdropped, watched, tracked, followed by CCTV cameras, recorded and scrutinised. Our words and web searches, our messages and intimacies, are to be stored and made available to the police, the spooks, the local council – the local council! – and "other public bodies".

In a spectacularly complete lack of realism and respect for civil liberties, Gorden Brown has proposed the logging of all British communications. Attempting this will utterly cripple an already streached telecommunications infrastructure, rape it's people of it's right to privacy. And ultimately, it will fail. It simply is not possible to log and index the multi-terrabit levels of traffic that fly through British telecommunication pipes daily. Basically this falls down to yet another labour IT project which will run into hundreds of billions of pounds to plan, and will never be implimented. But it's shocking that they think this is something they can do to its people.

The public would be wise to give Gordy the middle finger come election time.

[mediaboy]

Erm... you mean that the government are going to ADMIT that they're recording all this?

How do you think they catch game pirates and the like?

[shaithis]

Of course they will admit it, else it won't be admissible in court.

They are NOT doing this at the moment, the technicalities of doing so are staggering.

[aidanjt]

Originally Posted by mediaboy

Erm... you mean that the government are going to ADMIT that they're recording all this?

No, they're calling for logging *every* bit of data that is transmitted throughout Britians telecommunications infrastructure.

Originally Posted by mediaboy

How do you think they catch game pirates and the like?

*They* don't, it's the industry that looks out for that by catching people sharing files on peer to peer networks, it's a completely different means.

[Sinizter]

What a ****ing bunch of bull****. This is what our taxes are being spent on?

[aidanjt]

Originally Posted by Sinizter

This is what our taxes are being spent on?

You don't think the government *really* needs over half your wages to run the country, do you?

[santa claus]

OMG, did somebody just wake up in here?

[aidanjt]

Originally Posted by santa claus

OMG, did somebody just wake up in here?

This is entirely different.

[santa claus]

Originally Posted by aidanjt

This is entirely different.

A bit, not entirely.

[Andy3536]

They'll be opening our post next,

[HoldenBurn1000]

Originally Posted by Andy3536

They'll be opening our post next,

i swear my posty already is :S

[aidanjt]

Originally Posted by santa claus

A bit, not entirely.

Very, very different. *Everything* gets logged, all your kinky emails, text, and phone calls to/from your girlfriend/wife/whoever, all your internet database transfers, all your peer to peer usage, all your web browsing, all the software you download, your entire life will be logged, catalogged, and left accessable by practically any civil servant.

[santa claus]

Originally Posted by Andy3536

They'll be opening our post next,

Do they need to? If they know where you go, what you spend your money on and what you think, you're already pwned

Originally Posted by aidanjt

Very, very different. *Everything* gets logged, all your kinky emails, text, and phone calls to/from your girlfriend/wife/whoever, all your internet database transfers, all your peer to peer usage, all your web browsing, all the software you download, your entire life will be logged, catalogged, and left accessable by practically any civil servant.

Erm... yes. And that is what an ISP level interception is all about.

[Hicks12]

Wow.... whats the point? it will give the advantage to criminals really because all the data will be stored and then the gov will LOSE it just like they have lost atleast 1 piece of important information in alot of departments, i think last week a pen drive with all the prisoners in prison were lost(this isnt damaging but still worrying). What happened to privacy? its just as bad a phorm, perhaps they will use this now? we will get all our credit card details etc etc lost by them every year if they get away with this.

Whose up for killing gordy? i didnt mind him at first, i gave him the benefit of the doubt because of all the issues starting just as he gets prime minister e.g. flooding/increased prices and america failing. This is just to far .

[aidanjt]

Originally Posted by santa claus

Erm... yes. And that is what an ISP level interception is all about.

It's not ISP level, it's infrastructure level. We're not talking about some company greasing the palms of your ISP to get them to break the law so they can sell off your personal info based on your browsing habits. We're talking about the government wanting to store *everything*.

[santa claus]

Originally Posted by aidanjt

It's not ISP level, it's infrastructure level.

So how will that be achieved?