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    OS X Users not learning?

    Well this one is going to be controversial.

    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7...?tag=mncol;txt


    What is happening here is the patching of the vulnerability, the removal tool is erm not being used.

    Too many users have this feeling they are somehow invulnerable to attack, thanks mostly due to advertising about how its "Virus Free", now I don't want to get in to an argument over trojan, worms or virus, but the point is that some estimates put the number of infected users at 2.7%, this estimate is from users downloading anti-virus, so not remotely representative of the target population, but is alarming none the less, as these are likely the clued up users.
    http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012...malware-study/

    Which is higher than the rather pragmatic figures from ISR of windows 7 at 2.5%.

    What is worrying about this, is take any random visit to a website or IP from a resdential ISP, odds are its going to be windows. So given how rare OSX users actually are, its a bit worrying.

    I've always been impressed, shocked and surprised by how stupid users are, I mean really shocked, just when you think people can't get more dumb, they find a way. What is worrying me is that thanks to Apple marketing, these people think they are impervious. Also Apple support operating systems for too shorter time, a Computer Science Major yankie doodle friend of mine, doesn't see the problem with continuing to use her non-security updated MBP on the internet, even for important stuff, like banking.

    Most PC users, or enterprises, have had their baptisim of fire, blaster and the like were menacing but harmless really, they reset your system until you fixed it, it taught people a lesson with little reprocussions. It forced them into better habbits.

    Lets not forget that despite the flaw been patched many cycles before blaster struck, it spread like wildfire because people didn't patch, they didn't see the need.

    People still complain about things like Chrome restarting, not to mention their entire PC for mandatory updates, but unless people start been realistic about threats, the situation will get worse.

    TL;DR HAHA mactards.
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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    It's their complete and utter smugness that gets me. The way they waive their willies about their being hardly any threats etc.

    In the last 5 years I've only ever been unlucky enough to have been caught out with a virus and in all honesty it was my own fault each time, not due to any security issues with my operating system or internet connection. I seem to recall downloading some content, which had a virus in it. The other using a memory stick from a friend who shall we say wasn't as web savvy as me. He had qiute a thing for right handed viewing material online.

    I do get annoyed about having to restart after Windows updates etc, but meh with an SSD in the system it's all over in a flash.

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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    they waive their willies
    <grammar nazi mode> I for one would never waive my willy </grammar nazi mode>


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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Behemoth View Post
    I seem to recall downloading some content, which had a virus in it.
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    The other using a memory stick from a friend who shall we say wasn't as web savvy as me.
    He sounds EXACTLY as web-savvy as you
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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Having been on both sides of the fence, the relationship/difference between PC and Mac users reminds me of the difference between people who love cars, and people who just like to get from A to B without hassle. One of them likes the vehicle and tinkering with it, the other just needs the function.

    I can see now why i was slightly infuriated with Mac users back in the day

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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos View Post
    Having been on both sides of the fence, the relationship/difference between PC and Mac users reminds me of the difference between people who love cars, and people who just like to get from A to B without hassle. One of them likes the vehicle and tinkering with it, the other just needs the function.

    I can see now why i was slightly infuriated with Mac users back in the day
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    Passenger door wasn't closed properly

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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos View Post
    Having been on both sides of the fence, the relationship/difference between PC and Mac users reminds me of the difference between people who love cars, and people who just like to get from A to B without hassle. One of them likes the vehicle and tinkering with it, the other just needs the function.
    It's not about people wanting to tinker with it, its not about people knowing precisely how to change the oil.

    Its about people not running over those on the street or been car jacked.
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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    It's not about people wanting to tinker with it, its not about people knowing precisely how to change the oil.

    Its about people not running over those on the street or been car jacked.
    should Mac users know how to change a tyre?
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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    As said, a major part of the problem is the ignorant myth that Macs are malware-proof, and it's scary how many people seem to believe that and even buy a Mac solely because of it. However it doesn't excuse the 'expert' fools on either side, the sort of people who recommend you completely disable UAC/WinUpdate 'because they're annoying and a virus could obviously click on the OK button' Yes it's a pet hate of mine, but anyone who's gone behind them after they've 'fixed' a PC as often as I have probably thinks the same way...

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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    The problem with the car argument is that most windows would buy a Tata Nano and wonder why it drops to bits after 2 years.

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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Where do Hackintoshers fit into the mix..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollaxe View Post
    Where do Hackintoshers fit into the mix..?
    We are the ones running one of the few AVs for OS X
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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Quote Originally Posted by abaxas View Post
    The problem with the car argument is that most windows would buy a Tata Nano and wonder why it drops to bits after 2 years.
    Except there are loads of Indian made cars which seem to still work fine on the sub continent. Loads of Suzikis are built under license for that part of the world and seem to be OK for a few years. Not the most refined cars but they are much more affordable than many imported vehicles.

    Also,the whole cheap £200 to £300 Windows laptop falling the bits thing is more down to people who treat them roughly. I know plenty of people who use cheaper computers for years.

    Then there are the morons who would even end scuffing and damaging their expensive MacBooks because they are simpy rough users. In fact they are probably better off using a ruggedised design IMHO.

    If you want a laptop which is designed for constant on-the-road usage then pay more and get a better built laptop. There are plenty of them available and you don't need to break the bank either. You have a huge choice of Windows laptops to fit your budget and intended usage patterns.
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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Quote Originally Posted by abaxas View Post
    The problem with the car argument is that most windows would buy a Tata Nano and wonder why it drops to bits after 2 years.
    Depends whether you mean OS or physical build quality - Microsoft don't make computers, but there is a huge range to choose from so the physical argument is completely irrelevant. On the OS side, it would imply people only choose Windows because it's cheaper, which simply isn't the case either...

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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    It's not about people wanting to tinker with it, its not about people knowing precisely how to change the oil.

    Its about people not running over those on the street or been car jacked.
    You lost me

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    Re: OS X Users not learning?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
    should Mac users know how to change a tyre?
    I don't claim to be the smartest bloke in the world, I'm dyslexic so sometimes my spelling and grammar isn't the best.

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