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    Re: Peaches Geldof found dead. RIP

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-28438913

    Well it was as expected, in this case it's probably a bit sad to note it might have been the golden hello thing.

    The coroner said he believed she had lost the tolerance she had previously built up, therefore the purity of the heroin found in her house had a fatal impact.
    Addiction is something that we appear to actively punish, rather than try to help rid people off.
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    Re: Peaches Geldof found dead. RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Addiction is something that we appear to actively punish, rather than try to help rid people off.
    Probably because people aren't born with addictions, so at some point, the "user" will have had to have made a decision to consume said substance. And considering her mother died from Heroin use, you would have thought she would have steered clear of that drug in particular...

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    Re: Peaches Geldof found dead. RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen View Post
    Probably because people aren't born with addictions, so at some point, the "user" will have had to have made a decision to consume said substance.
    You confuse a symptom, a secondary stage, with a cause.
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    Re: Peaches Geldof found dead. RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen View Post
    Probably because people aren't born with addictions, so at some point, the "user" will have had to have made a decision to consume said substance. And considering her mother died from Heroin use, you would have thought she would have steered clear of that drug in particular...
    I don't know anything about her, but people do get pushed. Even rich people. Can be as simple as accepting a ciggie from the wrong person. With any life decision other than drugs that leads to needing medical treatment you're not punished or met with such derision.

    Of course, every non-addict eats a 100% super healthy diet, don't drink or smoke, regularly exercise, never, ever engage in any activity with a risk factor attached and have never done anything stupid that could of ended badly. Considering the ways most people treat their health the attitude is more than a little hypocritical.

    Even from the most selfish, least empathetic, purely mercantile point of view. The cheapest solution with the least societal impact is treatment. Judging and punishing is just cutting of your nose to spite your face, because no matter how you cut it, the bill will always land with the non-addicts, the tax payer.

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    Re: Peaches Geldof found dead. RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    .... because no matter how you cut it....
    Given the "importation quality" of the heroin found .... oh, groan.

    The irony is, if someone had cut it, maybe she'd still be alive.

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    Re: Peaches Geldof found dead. RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-28438913

    Well it was as expected, in this case it's probably a bit sad to note it might have been the golden hello thing.



    Addiction is something that we appear to actively punish, rather than try to help rid people off.


    you called it right and I was wrong to jump down your throat - my apologise.

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    Re: Peaches Geldof found dead. RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    ... Addiction is something that we appear to actively punish, rather than try to help rid people off.
    Apart from she'd been through two and a half years of treatment and had stopped using, at least for a time. Problem is we'll probably never know whether she dropped out of treatment, or something external drove her back to heroin, or if she simply fancied a hit and misjudged her tolerances. The stuff found in the house certainly suggests this wasn't a one off use, but if someone who was been through treatment, has stopped using their problem drug and who knows where to get help then starts using again and doesn't seek further help ... what do you do? All the help was there, but sometimes it just isn't enough.

    I suspect my former colleagues will be deluged with inquiries about death in treatment and drug use relapses now - like they don't have enough work on anyway (this is year end analysis time for addiction treatment stats). It's frustrating how people only care about these issues when something high profile gets reported....

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    Re: Peaches Geldof found dead. RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by HalloweenJack View Post
    you called it right and I was wrong to jump down your throat - my apologise.
    I'd actually seen her (I wouldn't say I'd met her) at a very small private function, about 50 people, she was meant to be doing a set, but was so out of it.

    I also know enough about addicts to know that many never recover, they just abstain.
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