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    Hexus Mastermind Thread #9 -ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    HEXUS MASTERMIND #9 - ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    Commencement Time: Friday 29th August, 8:00PM.
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    Primary - The Bible
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    Now accepting questions for ik9000 on the above subjects. Questions are to be submitted to Galant via PM, please (don't post them here). Once the questions are gathered and commencement date arranged they will be posted in this thread for answering by the contestant. We're looking for 15 questions on the primary subject and 5 questions on the secondary subject. 3 'Personal angle' questions permitted on Primary, 1 'Personal Angle' question permitted on the secondary.

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    ik9000, I'll be PMing you to arrange a time to begin the contest. Once the questions are posted here you will have 24 hours to answer them all below. All questions are to be answered from your own head only without reference to any outside sources. These Mastermind challenges are running on the honour system so please don't cheat!

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    Re: Hexus Mastermind Thread #9 -ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    Someone say Alien?
    I thought they said "Illegal Alien" and signed up, heh heh!!

    I'll help with the Alien films!!!

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    Re: Hexus Mastermind Thread #9 -ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    Cheers. PM me your questions.

    And no 'harsh language!'.
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    Re: Hexus Mastermind Thread #9 -ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    Galant, clear out your inbox please! Trying to PM you as requested but says you're full.

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    Re: Hexus Mastermind Thread #9 -ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    Ah, cheers. Will do.
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    Re: Hexus Mastermind Thread #9 -ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    HEXUS MASTERMIND #9 - ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    Commencement Time: 8:00PM 29th August.

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    Secondary: The Alien Films


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    QUESTIONS

    For the purposes of this quiz, unless otherwise specificed, questions will relate to the standard arrangement of 66 books held in the Jewish and Protestant canon, which was also the Roman Catholic canon prior to Trent. All quotations will come from the ESV.

    1. List all the Books of the Bible, in usual order. 100% correct please.
    2. Arrangement - Please explain what is the normal arrangement of the books, along with all the genres of literature used in the Bible (so that all the books are covered). Additionally, for the Old Testament the Jewish people use the term Tanakh - what arrangement does Tanakh describe? (2 of 3 please.)
    3. Translation - What original languages feature in the Scriptures and broadly speaking what are the three main approaches taken in translating them to other languages - please provide an English Bible version exemplifying each ?
    4. "A king such as all the nations have." In what book is this found and what momentous change does it precipitate?
    5. In the New Testament there are several references to the Samaritan people. Who were they, what Old Testament event leads to their origin and where is it recorded?
    6. Which two books written by Paul are considered by many to be his 'masterpieces'? What two types of book did he write and which other New Testament writers round out the authors of that same general genre?
    7. Literary Devices - please describe/explain the following literary devices/ways of making a point (4/6 needed):
    Hebraic Parallelism
    Chiastic Structure/Chiasm
    Parable
    Type
    Accomodative Language
    Prolepsis
    8. There are five major convenants mentioned in the Old Testament which are all referenced throughout the Scriptures. What are they?
    9. Stephen Langton and Robert Estienne, in the 13th and 16th centuries respectively, made what adaptation to the Bible?
    10. For the nation of Israel, in the Old Testament, generally speaking there are three main forms of worship required by God - what were they? (2/3 needed)
    11. Within chapters 42-53 of Isaiah there are four specific poems which are also collectively known as what (some people count a fifth in Isaiah 61)?
    12. Name the books by the quote (6/10 please):
    A - "In those days there was no king is Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes."
    B - "Do not urge me to leave you or to return from following you. For where you go I will go, and where you lodge I will lodge. Your people shall be my people, and your God my God. 17 Where you die I will die, and there will I be buried. May the Lord do so to me and more also if anything but death parts me from you."
    C - "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."
    D - "Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me."
    E - "If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing."
    F - "The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me, because the LORD has anointed me to bring good news to the poor; he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound; to proclaim the year of the LORD’s favor, and the day of vengeance of our God."
    G - "What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead."
    H - “With what shall I come before the LORD, and bow myself before God on high? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? Will the LORD be pleased with a thousands of rams, with ten thousands of rivers of oil? Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?" He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?"
    I - "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
    J - "“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might."
    13. The four Gospels were written to different audiences and with different focuses/purposes in mind, name the gospels (all four required) and for each one at least one of either, their intended audience, or, their specific focus/purpose. (Thus, a possible 8 correct answers with at least 4 needed).
    14. The Messiah is a central Biblical figure for both Jews and Christians. What does 'Messiah' literally mean, and name three specific Old Testament prophetic passages about the Messiah. Additionally, name three New Testament books written with the specific focus of illustrating Jesus as the expected Messiah or which deal with Jesus' role of Messiah in detail. (5/7 needed).
    15. The Ten Commandments - list them please. (8/10 needed).
    16. How many years was Ellen Ripley in Stasis between the end of Alien and the start of Aliens?
    17. Who is the actress in the picture portraying Amanda Ripley before Ripleys hearing and what relation is she to Sigourney Weaver?
    18. What is Hicks's tattoo?
    19. Which film served as the inspiration for Alien and who wrote it?
    20. How does the Motion Tracker in Alien work?
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    Re: Hexus Mastermind Thread #9 -ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    Q1. List all the Books of the Bible, in usual order. 100% correct please.

    Seriously, 66 parts to the answer? All those permutations and I have to get it 100% right for a mark? FFS!




    1. Genesis
    2. Exodus
    3. Leviticus
    4. Numbers
    5. Deuteronomy
    6. Joshua
    7. Judges
    8. Ruth
    9. 1 Samuel
    10. 2 Samuel
    11. 1 Kings
    12. 2 Kings
    13. 1 Chronicles
    14. 2 Chronicles
    15. Ezra
    16. Nehemiah
    17. Esther
    18. Job
    19. Psalms
    20. Proverbs
    21. Ecclesiastes
    22. Song of Songs (aka Song of Solomon)
    23. Isaiah
    24. Jeremiah
    25. Lamentations
    26. Ezekiel
    27. Daniel
    28. Hosea
    29. Joel
    30. Amos
    31. Obadaiah
    32. Jonah
    33. Micah
    34. Nahum
    35. Habbakuk
    36. Zephaniah
    37. Haggai
    38. Zechariah
    39. Malachi

    40. Matthew
    41. Mark
    42. Luke
    43. John
    44. Acts
    45. Romans
    46. 1 Corinthians
    47. 2 Corinthians
    48. Galatians
    49. Ephesians
    50. Phillipians
    51. Colossians
    52. 1 Thessalonians
    53. 2 Thessalonians
    54. 1Timothy
    55. 2 Timothy
    56. Titus
    57. Hebrews
    58. James
    59. Philemon
    60. 1 Peter
    61. 2 Peter
    62. 1 John
    63. 2 John
    64. 3 John
    65. Jude
    66. Revelation

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    2. Arrangement - Please explain what is the normal arrangement of the books, along with all the genres of literature used in the Bible (so that all the books are covered). Additionally, for the Old Testament the Jewish people use the term Tanakh - what arrangement does Tanakh describe? (2 of 3 please.)

    Books are grouped in the modern bible as follows:

    The Old Testament (God's word to his people before Christ)

    Books of the law (the Jewish Torah) Genesis-Deuteronomy, broadly God's word as recorded by Moses, the foundation and laws of Israel
    Books of History (Joshua through Ezra) - the history of Israel (in the broad sense i.e. Israel being all of the Jewish nation as distinct from the later meaning post split)
    Books of Wisdom & Poetry (Job - Song of Songs)
    The Major Prophets (in terms of length not significance) Isaiah through to Daniel, though Lamentations is kind of more song/poetry but still fits within the genre of prophesy - though it more asks for God to fulfill his promises than makes new ones.
    The Minor Prophets the rest of them listed above up to Malachi - the last book of prophecy from God to his people

    The New testament (after Christ)

    The gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke and John - life and teachings of Jesus, the Christ
    The Acts of the apostles - church history, the spread of the gospel
    The epistles, i.e. apostolic letters to various churches and individuals (Romans to Jude)
    The Revelation John's apocalyptic revelation from God of how it all ends - prophesy and history foretold.

    The books are not grouped chronologically, though that can be an interesting exercise to read the bible in that way. Helps place the prophets to the appropriate situations amongst other things.

    In terms of literary styles, the above groupings are not fully descriptive, but I think that is what the question is trying to ask. Daniel, for example, is part history, part apocalyptic prophesy. Deuteronomy contains prophesy. Leviticus is dull, and pretty much every historical book features some song or other. The gospels contain genealogies and so forth.

    As for Tanakh, no idea. Sorry.

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    3. Translation - What original languages feature in the Scriptures and broadly speaking what are the three main approaches taken in translating them to other languages - please provide an English Bible version exemplifying each ?

    Ok, I would just point out I said this WASNT my job..... I'd love to be able to do my own translation, but seriously, that is 3 years at bible college and I don't have the funds....

    The languages are predominantly Hebrew (old Testament) Greek (New Testament) - I presume you mean which languages are they written in, not which spoken languages are referred to in the bible. E.g. Aramaic phrases are quoted, that being Jesus native tongue, in the gospels for example. I seem to recall Daniel shifts language half way through with the latter half being only for the Jewish audience, and the former half for a wider audience, but I can't remember what the different languages are.

    In terms of translation well I'll tell you what I know:

    Some translations go for literal - word for word where possible. The ESV leans towards this. Nuances of meaning can get a bit lost, but deliberate repetition of phrases and words are retained helping to emphasise a point from the original text. The end result can sound a bit clunky to the reader, as not everything translates precisely from one language to another.

    Others go for as literal as possible while preserving meaning, but with the aim of allowing the text to sound more natural to the listener/reader in their native toungue. The NIV will do this, deliberately not using the same word multiple times in a sentence which otherwise grates somewhat in English. The message isn't changed but deliberate juxtaposition can become more subtle.

    I'd need to pull out a bible to give examples. As for the third way? Dunno, preserving meaning but less literally e.g Good News translation - easier reading and more child friendly, meaning and message preserved but in a more accessible phrasing and vocabulary.

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    4. "A king such as all the nations have." In what book is this found and what momentous change does it precipitate?

    This is in 1 Samuel (chapter 7 IIRC) and it is the people's demand for a king to rule over them instead of a judge. God was to be Israel's king, they were not to be like the nations around them, they were to live in freedom under God, with leaders to judge them and lead them when necessary. Samuel did this par excellence, but his sons did not, and as Samuel got old the people wanted a king instead of his corrupt sons to lead them. That the people would do so was foretold even to Moses and the rules for the king are recorded in Deuteronomy. However the way in which the people asked for a king "to be like the nations" flies in the face of God's intent for his people - to be a witness to the nations around you - i.e. to be different, and to show the faithfulness of God to his people. The request for a king is not wrong - that is all part of the big plan, but the reason for their request at this time was sinful. The ultimate king is Christ himself, the faithful king who does all the Israelites claim they wanted in their king - a leader, a righteous judge, a protector and representative before God, a preserver and provider of true freedom. And unlike the earthly kings of which Samuel warns them, one to/by whom they are not ensnared, enslaved, exploited and wearied.

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    5. In the New Testament there are several references to the Samaritan people. Who were they, what Old Testament event leads to their origin and where is it recorded?

    Following Solomon the golden years of the kingdom of Israel come to a miserable end. His son succeeds him as king, is a tactless idiot, and succeeds in alienating the northern tribes from the southern tribes, and the result is civil war and schism. The northern tribes leave, and the kingdom is split in two, the southern kingdom of Judah, and the northern kingdom of Israel consisting of the other tribes. Each kingdom has their own kings, who oscillate from good to bad, and some really bad, in terms of their rule and their relationship with God, and as them, so their countries follow.

    Judah fairs better, with worship at the temple in Jerusalem largely ongoing. The northern kingdom are not permitted to go to Jerusalem to worship God lest they turn against the breakaway king. He sets up altars to worship in Bethel - naughty, das ist verboten, God is clear that once the temple is built he is to be worshipped there and there alone. Spiritual life in the north unsurprisingly decays far quicker than in the south, and the kings and their people become so corrupt God retracts his protection and sends on them the curses he forewarned them in the time of Moses, and repeatedly through the prophets since: conquest by Assyria and exile to Assyria. 760 something BC

    Judah fairs better spiritually but herself ultimately shares the same fate circa 560 BC falling to the Babylonian empire.

    The kingdom of Israel having fallen earlier, and been forcedly intra-married in exile is no longer considered "pure". Samaria becomes the name for the northern kingdom, and the tribes from there are called Samaritans. To the Jews (the returnees from the Babylonian exile of Judah which was far shorter approx 70 years) the Samaritans are considered lesser, as their ancestors were forsaken by God and their heritage had been spoiled (think Harry Potter and Mud-bloods). They missed the point that God looks at the heart, not the ancestry.

    This is all recorded in the books of Kings and Chronicles which overlap in terms of their coverage, the second version of each in particular deal with the latter kings and the exiles. These books would also refer us to the "annals of the kings of Israel and Judah" but sadly these are lost, interesting though they would be the official records of the nations are not part of God's word to us.

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    6. Which two books written by Paul are considered by many to be his 'masterpieces'? What two types of book did he write and which other New Testament writers round out the authors of that same general genre?

    Undoubtedly Romans, and probably Hebrews, though there is some debate as to whether this was actually written by Paul. It is certainly Pauline in its doctrine.

    Paul wrote letters to churches, and to individuals. the two above are heavily theological, while some of the letters are more personal in nature eg Timothy, Philemon etc. All however are written to encourage their audience to take their faith and election seriously, to persevere, fight the good fight and finish the race for Christ.

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    Re: Hexus Mastermind Thread #9 -ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    7. Literary Devices - please describe/explain the following literary devices/ways of making a point (4/6 needed):
    Hebraic Parallelism
    Chiastic Structure/Chiasm
    Parable
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    Accomodative Language
    Prolepsis

    Sorry you lost me there. Parable - the telling of stories to emphasise/make a point. Jesus mainly taught the Jews publicly in this way. Simplification of big ideas into simple stories accessible to all. "The kingdom of God is like...." and the listener needs to do the unpacking. Deliberately so, and to the consternation and shame of the supposed religious "elite" who didn't like the implications.

    As for the rest, well if I ever get to bible college I'll let you know.

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    Re: Hexus Mastermind Thread #9 -ik9000 - Prophets vs. Power-loaders

    8. There are five major convenants mentioned in the Old Testament which are all referenced throughout the Scriptures. What are they?

    Still thinking on this one...

    Do you mean covenants directly to individuals or the unpacking of God's overall promise to his people throughout the old testament?
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