Who can say, but I think at least some of them would. There were a number of failings before it even got to the police so improving their response on that one factor couldn't have affected those, however one would hope that further harm would have been reduced if the police had acted better.Originally Posted by wasabi
Food for thought, a Police force should have a few police officers from an ethnic community in the area it regulates.
I thought they were British?
British per se is not an ethnicity.
I meant , in this case, British Pakistani police officers
This becomes scary how those people felt they can get away with everything only because their race is different. People of different races should be taken equally, this makes you feel so unsafe. If a Pakistani guy will harm me I can be also sued for racial intolerance now? In Britain this is not the first case, there were also Muslim guys who were abusing women on streets if their clothes wasn't according their religion.
So the police are meant to not differentiate between people based on ethnicity except when they differentiate between people based on ethnicity? Mmm'kay?
Last edited by wasabi; 04-09-2014 at 11:25 AM.
I think it is plain stupid to try and analyse this situation. Trying to justify certain crimes in regards to their ethnicity, religion, whatever. Same for other bleeding areas.
I highly doubt they would of been so sensitive if the description was "someone in a hoody acting like a "gangster"". No, I bet that stereotype would of been taken with ease.
The fact that remains is that it is a crime, and if someone wants to "rebel" because they feel they've been picked out for racism then that is their problem. If they protest due to their religion and believing that is the cause of their sentence well they need to get a grip and stop using these as excuses.
And for the record, our country, culture, religion, basically way of life differs from some so there is naturally going to be some clashes. I don't understand why as a country we feel we need to take a step back and be kind as to not "offend" others. We can't bend law, as essentially we are making things "nice" for others.
Yes have a lovely home but because we class you as "not one of us" we shall let you do as you please because you're not happy with something, or you think what you are doing is right, or be light with your sentences. Complete push over and a complete wash of police time and money. Police spend a stupid amount of money only to give silly sentences. Jeeze get a grip, it doesn't matter if they are black, white, they can be bleeding orange purple blue, the law should still apply.
Also another issue is religious beliefs and what they follow, i.e. as mentioned above, clothing (I can't comment completely on it). Well the issue straight away is simple: A country primarily Christian. You are always going to get an individual on both sides conflicting and not living in peace, which is an issue.
You can't overlap faiths onto an individual who has different faith than yourself, as it is morally wrong. Yet it happens. Some on the extreme ends are open, physically or verbally.
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mikeo01 (04-09-2014)
What he means is that there should be British-Pakistanis on a force that polices a predominately British-Pakistani community. If its a white-dominated police, then people who are arrested, whether guilty or not, could use the excuse that they were unfairly targeted because of their race. Their inclusion in the force allows the police to better connect with the community.
A recent example of this is the race riots in Ferguson, Ohio. It was a case of a black community against a white police force. How did they try to ease tensions? They brought in Ron Johnson, an African-American patrolman, to oversee security.
I personally would find it disrespectful to go over to another country and not try to fit in.When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Else, don't go to Rome
Hell I even feel bad that I am not good at Spanish when I visit Spain, I feel like a right ignorant Brit
"If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
"I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
"In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."
I'm not totally up to speed with all the reports, etc. I find alot of the news distressing. Isn't this whole nightmare, a result of Labour policy. I saw they were making senior figures, resign from LP. And then getting all self righteous about the abuse(Yvette Cooper). It's obvious, they need to sack all those officials involved(council,police,social services,etc), Arrest all the Pakistani men, and give them harsh sentences. Then carry out the same policy across the country. They need to help all the victims, counseling, and serious compensation(paid by LP)! We need to get back power from EU, and deport anyone who doesn't conform to our laws. Make the Human Rights Act fair! I think multiculturalism is supposed to be about learning from other cultures, and enhancing our own. This, and what is happening with IS, and other Islamic revolutionaries, doesn't seem to fit into that!
Being devil's advocate.
Committing violent race-motivated crimes against vulnerable women and children? Police's fault for not being ethnic enough.
Mention ethnicity when talking about immigration policy, get slammed for being a racist Nazi because everyone in Britain is indistinguishably British.
You mean begin a military campaign to invade other countries and impose your own culture on them?
right on my doorstep in Bucks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-29054064
Most of them are in their 30's . You would think they would have some brains at that age.
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