Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 17 to 26 of 26

Thread: Car insurance and named drivers

  1. #17
    OilSheikh
    Guest

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy View Post
    Not terrified sheep, but actually not trying to cheat the system at every opportunity.

    If you're the main driver and it's not declared then you're committing fraud. Simple as.
    Why is it a fraud? I have declared to the insurance company that I drive the car. I don't recall them telling me about any rules like additional driver must clock in and out and drive 1/2 the miles of the main driver.

  2. #18
    DDY
    DDY is offline
    Senior Member DDY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,838
    Thanks
    184
    Thanked
    624 times in 432 posts
    • DDY's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock Z390M Pro 4
      • CPU:
      • i5 9600k
      • Memory:
      • 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz
      • Storage:
      • Adata SX8200 NVME 1TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • RX 5700
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Focus Gold 550W
      • Operating System:
      • Win 7 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2715H

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Why is it a fraud? I have declared to the insurance company that I drive the car. I don't recall them telling me about any rules like additional driver must clock in and out and drive 1/2 the miles of the main driver.
    It's fraud because what you've declared to the insurance company isn't accurate and you're benefiting from it.

    Just because the insurer hasn't imposed any of the arbitrary rules you've made up, doesn't mean it isn't fraud

  3. #19
    Guy
    Guy is offline
    HEXUS.social member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Hampshire, UK
    Posts
    5,174
    Thanks
    404
    Thanked
    412 times in 296 posts

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Why is it a fraud? I have declared to the insurance company that I drive the car. I don't recall them telling me about any rules like additional driver must clock in and out and drive 1/2 the miles of the main driver.
    You've admitted to being the main driver, yet for insurance purposes haven't been declared as such.

  4. #20
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    31,025
    Thanks
    1,871
    Thanked
    3,383 times in 2,720 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra
      • CPU:
      • Intel i9 9900k
      • Memory:
      • 32GB DDR4 3200 CL16
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung 970Evo+ NVMe
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell S2721DGF
      • Internet:
      • rubbish

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    And to mention, if you think 'because I can get away with it' is a valid excuse, remember that's just asking for big brother/nanny states. I don't want biometric or driving data to be slurped by insurance companies, but that attitude will bring it about all the quicker.

    If on the other hand you want to have freedom to be treated like an responsible adult then you have to respect the law back.

  5. #21
    OilSheikh
    Guest

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    And to mention, if you think 'because I can get away with it' is a valid excuse, remember that's just asking for big brother/nanny states. I don't want biometric or driving data to be slurped by insurance companies, but that attitude will bring it about all the quicker.

    If on the other hand you want to have freedom to be treated like an responsible adult then you have to respect the law back.
    Is this the same law that wants £5k insurance for teenage or 1st time drivers? Insurance companies are a bunch of conmen

  6. #22
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    31,025
    Thanks
    1,871
    Thanked
    3,383 times in 2,720 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra
      • CPU:
      • Intel i9 9900k
      • Memory:
      • 32GB DDR4 3200 CL16
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung 970Evo+ NVMe
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell S2721DGF
      • Internet:
      • rubbish

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Is this the same law that wants £5k insurance for teenage or 1st time drivers? Insurance companies are a bunch of conmen
    Don't like it, don't drive. Young drivers cause the vast majority of accidents, the rest of us are already subsidising them.

  7. #23
    The late but legendary peterb - Onward and Upward peterb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Looking down & checking on swearing
    Posts
    19,378
    Thanks
    2,892
    Thanked
    3,403 times in 2,693 posts

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Is this the same law that wants £5k insurance for teenage or 1st time drivers? Insurance companies are a bunch of conmen
    Insurance is based on risk, and statistically, young and/or inexperienced drivers have a higher pro silty of being involved in an accident than older or more experienced drivers.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...22437599000183

    There is some research that young males do not develop an appreciation of risk until they are in their early 20s, and again statistics show that the risks of having an accident de line after the age of 25, which is reflected in insurance premiums for drivers when they reach that age.
    (\__/)
    (='.'=)
    (")_(")

    Been helped or just 'Like' a post? Use the Thanks button!
    My broadband speed - 750 Meganibbles/minute

  8. #24
    Guy
    Guy is offline
    HEXUS.social member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Hampshire, UK
    Posts
    5,174
    Thanks
    404
    Thanked
    412 times in 296 posts

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Is this the same law that wants £5k insurance for teenage or 1st time drivers? Insurance companies are a bunch of conmen
    Hardly conmen, no one's forcing you to drive. Besides, they'll have been priced accordingly for a reason given the inexperience for young/first time drivers.

    Can't say I'd ever be the first to jump in and defend the insurance industry, but in this case plenty of exceptions can be made.

  9. #25
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    North West, UK
    Posts
    584
    Thanks
    22
    Thanked
    38 times in 32 posts
    • big_hairy_rob's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS Z170-A
      • CPU:
      • Intel I5 6600k
      • Memory:
      • 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengence (3000mhz)
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 850 500GB, WD Blue 1TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • MSI Radeon R9 275
      • PSU:
      • EVGA 550W (80 plus Gold)
      • Case:
      • Fractal Design S (Windowed)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 64.
      • Monitor(s):
      • Iiyama ProLite E24B3HS 24", LG Flatron L1950SQ19"
      • Internet:
      • Plusnet (infinity)

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    The other point is that the named driver probably won't build up any no-claims discount (though this differs policy to policy).

  10. #26
    Senior Member Macman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    1,528
    Thanks
    195
    Thanked
    97 times in 80 posts
    • Macman's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Z170 Pro Gaming
      • CPU:
      • i9 9900K
      • Memory:
      • 32GB
      • Storage:
      • 5TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Nvidia GeForce RTX2080Ti
      • PSU:
      • Corsair 650VS
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 11
      • Monitor(s):
      • 27" Asus Predator

    Re: Car insurance and named drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Is this the same law that wants £5k insurance for teenage or 1st time drivers? Insurance companies are a bunch of conmen
    I pay a hefty sum simply because I have epilepsy. I've never had a seizure outside the house (Thank god). Insurance Company deem me as a higher risk and charge me a hefty one especially when I had my Fiesta ST.

    They can charge what they want, but when it comes to a claim. Wether people like it or not. Their first priority is "Can we make this claim invalid?" trust me. It's how they work.

    And if they find out you aren't the main driver, they will throw everything at you. And I mean everything.

    - Policy will be rendered invalid
    - Premium will shoot up
    - May affect any other insurance policy as they base it all on risk/probability

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •