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About LinkBacksPretty sure he is in a few of their videos but I refrained from posting them about as didn't want to be seen as trying to capitalize on a tragedy. Not on here, but on other social media.Originally Posted by directhex
Pretty sure he is in a few of their videos but I refrained from posting them about as didn't want to be seen as trying to capitalize on a tragedy. Not on here, but on other social media.
Update to the previous article:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...tical-activist
Thomas Mair allegedly said ‘this is for Britain’ and ‘keep Britain independent’ as he stabbed and shot MP, court hearsMair is alleged to have said “Britain first”, “this is for Britain”, “Britain always comes first” and “keep Britain independent” as he attacked the MP, prosecutors said.Bernard Kenny, 77, was waiting for his wife in his car outside the library at the time of the attack, Cawthorne said. Kenny recognised Cox and saw a man approach and stab her. He intervened and was himself stabbed in the abdomen, forcing him to retreat into a nearby shop, the court heard.
Mair told police he was a “political activist” as he was arrested a mile from the scene, the prosecution said. Officers said the accused said “it’s me” when he was confronted; he was then tackled to the ground, handcuffed and searched. During the arrest, Mair also confirmed his name.
Searching Mair’s pockets, officers found a plastic bag containing bullets. They also found a single-barrelled firearm, along with a bloodstained mobile phone, a dagger and a black wallet, the court heard.
A written summary of the prosecution’s case revealed the findings of a search of the defendant’s house. Newspaper articles relating to Cox and ideological material relating to extreme rightwing and white-supremacist organisations and individuals were recovered from the property.
Mair remained silent when asked for his address and date of birth, and was handcuffed to a guard in the dock during the hearing. He was not required to enter a plea and Keith Allen, his lawyer, said there was no indication of what plea would be given. Allen also told the court an application for legal aid had been made.
The deputy chief magistrate Emma Arbuthnot ordered that Mair be remanded in custody at Belmarsh prison until his next appearance, which will be at the Old Bailey on Monday. Arbuthnot also suggested that a psychiatric report be prepared. “Bearing in mind the name he has just given, he ought to be seen by a psychiatrist,” she said.
He gave his name as "Freedom to Britain. Death to Traitors" to the court.
I think when we see these mass killings, its obviously still an act of terror and the perpetrator is a terrorist regardless, but as a lone gun-man I think its reasonable to highlight mental health. What can you really be expected to do about a lone gunman plotting away in his basement?
When you find out someone is part of an organised group who spend time training each other in fighting techniques, I think its irresponsible to brush it under the rug as a mental health issue. The priority should be analysing how much of a risk this group is and take any necessary action to protect the citizens of the nation. The mental health of the group members is totally irrelevant.
The stuff detailed in your link is self defence against people trying to stab you, and rather oddly UK law permits some groups to carry large knives, including the Scottish!
I found this an interesting read https://theintercept.com/2016/06/17/...d-a-terrorist/
"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."
I'm sure the training of a group that has threatened the life of the London mayor would be entirely self-defence.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-white-n595286
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rism-protocolsThe man suspected of killing a British lawmaker once attended a meeting of American white supremacists in London, the Southern Poverty Law Center said in a report published Sunday.
A man accused of murdering the Labour MP Jo Cox has appeared again in court, ahead of a further appearance next week when he will face a judge under terrorism protocols.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 20-06-2016 at 03:49 PM.
Does anyone know what the advantages are (Technically speaking) of the case being dealt with by the Specialist Crime and Counter Terrorism Division versus a local or regional CPS branch?
Does it mean they can hand down a longer sentence or maybe investigate any supposed links to an organisations.
this thread is sad so very sad .. it would not matter if she was just a jane public and was killed story over in 5 mins .. but because of the referendum it will be news till the 23rd ..
the guy was a nutter on prescription drugs with voices in his head .. not a white terrorist ,not a political assassin .. both side should be ashamed of using her death like this ..
and so should all of you for going on about it
What does it matter now if men believe or no?
What is to come will come. And soon you too will stand aside,
To murmur in pity that my words were true
(Cassandra, in Agamemnon by Aeschylus)
To see the wizard one must look behind the curtain ....
Being a white terrorist that assassinated an MP and having mental health issues are not mutually exclusive. Both appear to be equally true, whether you like that reality or not, its what it is.
So it was a totally random target?
is every killing random .. ?? so that makes them all white terrorist ,political assassins ..
what ever you think or how your politically motivated not everything is blue or green .. but you use it as you see fit .. no one can change the mind set of a .......
What does it matter now if men believe or no?
What is to come will come. And soon you too will stand aside,
To murmur in pity that my words were true
(Cassandra, in Agamemnon by Aeschylus)
To see the wizard one must look behind the curtain ....
Some of them.
What? Learn what words meanso that makes them all white terrorist ,political assassins ..
Can you explain which bit about "white terrorist assassination" you think doesn't apply and actually explain why you think that?
Last edited by Biscuit; 20-06-2016 at 07:05 PM.
He was heavily involved with the far right group britain first; who are pretty much in their minds involved in some sort of Christian war against Muslims(they have a group on facebook called the templars ffshttps://www.facebook.com/knightstemplarint/). They go around barging into mosques and harassing Muslims and other crap like that. They also do "self defence" training for members along with creating a pseudo news channel that creates demented propaganda for its members. Can you honestly say a person involved with said group wouldn't be radicalised? The terrorist targeted someone who not only spoke out for Syrians being killed but wanted Britain to remain in the eu. Britain first member legitimately think that remaining in the eu would mean Britain would become overrun by Muslims. It's time we take the far right more seriously, before these nutters can commit anymore atrocities.
"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."
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