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Did that once. Never again. Results will be the same tomorrow.
May gets replaced, re-do in Sep?
Alliance of the unlikely brexit-remain? Or Brexit-SNP?
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Yeah.. This exit poll reflects my experience of things in Lincoln.. a Tory-Labour marginal.. Talk of a landslide Tory win was just media spin/hype in my opinion.
Hopefully Amber Rudd would provide that Portillo moment. Is it too early to talk about the next Tory leader?
Yes, it is.Originally Posted by Top_gun
It is VERY early, and SO FAR, signs are the exit poll doesn't match with the few results we have.... as at 1.5hrs in.
SO FAR, exit polls put Lab at +15% and results are +9%, and they put Con at +2% and results are +6%.
That is to say, Tories at 6% BETTER than exit polls suggest, and Lab at 6% worse than exit poll suggests.
Of course, after about 7 results declared, it is still FAR to early to assume that pattern holds, but if it does, the final result will be better than the Exit poll suggests, but nowhere near the 'landslide' early polls duggested weeks ago.
Trying to second-guess the final result now is akin to guessing the Grand Nation result when the horses are still in the starting gate and the gun has just fired.
Give it another 2 or 3 hours and we'll have a much better idea whether the exit poll is right, or the 6% difference the early resilts show from predictions is typical. Or, indeed, if something completely different to either is happening.
It seems Kate Hoey seat could be taken by George Turner, Lib Dems. Kate Hoey is a staunch Brexiteer and looks like Londoners do take exception to Brexiters. Just look what happen to Zac Goldsmith. Anyway, I've met George Turner a few years ago and is a really nice person. I'm sure he'll make an exceptional MP.
One fairly consistent trend, so far at least, is UKIP getting clobbered.
The Tories failed to take a key seat in Tooting. Labour even increased their majority. The Exit Poll looking accurate.
Wow, Justine Greening won on a slim margin considering she had a 10,000 majority back in 2015. It's looking bad for the Tories.
It's certainly not looking great for the Tories, though it's looking like they might have traded a modest but workable majority into no overall majority by a rather hubristic snatch at getting a big majority. That said, with (traditionally) Sinn Fein not taking their seats, and on most things, a meeting of minds with the DUP, they may well still be the government.
We appear to now be heading for the result everybody expected in 2015, except with May/Corbyn instead of Cameron/Milliband.
Who it's looking really bad for, though, is the SNP and their independence agenda. At least UKIP must have expected a clobbering.
Theresa May is waking up this morning and, like a million drunks before, thinking 'why the hell did I do that?'
It's a good outcome for democracy, voter turnout has increased from 66.1% to 68.3% with an additional 0.5m registered voters to boot.
It's a bad outcome for the UK though, because whilst I really didn't want the Tory's to "win", having no clear winner at a time when we're supposed to be negotiating our future, is going to make things very difficult.
Best short term outcome, Theresa May goes, and we get a more central leaning approach from the Tories so they attract support from "rebel" Labour MP's on most of the votes.
One thing is for certain though, Labour's infighting is likely done for the time being because I doubt anyone will question Corbyn's approach for a while after orchastrating this surge in support.
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This is bunny and friends. He is fed up waiting for everyone to help him out, and decided to help himself instead!
The responsibility for that bad outcome lays entirely with them (IMO), there was no need for a referendum and there was no need for this election.
And before anyone says there was a need for a referendum it's worth remembering that UKIP only received 2.2%, 3.1%, and 12.6% share of the vote, the referendum was IMO called for purely party political reasons just like this election was called for party political reasons.
Step 1, Try to score political points by calling an unnecessary vote.
Step 2, Have it blow up in everyone's faces when a surprise result appears.
Step 3, Repeat one year later.
Phage (09-06-2017)
Whos up for another GE chaps?
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