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| Poor student on a budget Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Surbiton
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| Graphics card: Now or later To put it simply, I have a 8600GT (LP so it's sort of a crippled 8600GT) and I want to upgrade. Now I see a 4850 2nd hand in the 2nd hand section and it's £60. Should I get this or wait till next month (I'll have £75 definitely) and get an XFX 4770. I really like the design of the XFX 4770 haha. Or should I save up a bit more and get a 5770? Hope someone can help, thanks! P.S. I'm a student so every £10 saved is a lot saved lol. |
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later Originally Posted by Ulti The HD5770 was around £110 at release but had now gone up in price!!
The same is true of the HD5750 which could be had for under £100 at launch!!The HD4850 for sale has the Akasa Vortexx Neo aftermarket cooler BTW. It is a good card for the money although you could get a brand new HD4770 and HD4850 for between £70 and £80. TBH,I would wait until the HD5750 and HD5770 have dropped in price as they offer better performance,low idle power consumption,DX11 and also have more RAM which may help at higher resolutions. Baltar's quote of the day:"All we need is strength! Strength that comes from within! .....and guns! More guns! Bigger guns! Better guns! And when we have those, we will win!" Moose counter-quote of the day:"[Moose] can fly and [moose] can land,Just not very well." |
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| Poor student on a budget Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Surbiton
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later Well I won't be getting a new monitor so I'll only be gaming at 1280*1024. I'll be playing stuff like World of Warcraft, Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 2. (And I'll play the L4D2 demo - which is why I wanna get a GFX card soon) EDIT: Reason why I'm asking is because I don't really like the look of the 4850 and the blue LED lights of the Vortexx Neo and I much prefer XFX's 4770 for £75 (which is £15 for a new card) Not sure if I should bother waiting for a DX11 card though... |
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later I would stick it out for as long as you possibly can My XFire = Biscuiteer Main PC: Q6600 | P5P45 TD Turbo | 4GB GSkill Ripjaw | GTX260 SSC | 2 x F3 500GB RAID0 | W7 x64 Laptop :15.4" Macbook Pro 2.2GHz | 3GB RAM | 128MB M8600GT | 7200RPM 160GB HDD Server/HTPC: E1200 | XFX MG-610i | 1GB Corsair VS | Nvidia 6200TC | F1 750GB | WD 320GB | Granadia G01 | Ubuntu x64 9.04 Phone/PDA : HTC Touch Pro | 8GB SD Card | Energy ROM |
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| Senior makes me sound old Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Between Aylesbury and High Wycombe
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later I have got a 4850 and i think its a really good card (now) for an example at 1200x800 and 4x AA i can play Call of Duty 4 and never really drops below 80 FPS and stays at 125 FPS most of the time (depending on what map) but it never go's into the red (below 60 FPS) but i got mine for a bargin of 50 pounds, i dont really think the 4770 is worth it. http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-ra...-4770-review/9 When you look at this chart i think the bench's start on page 8 or 9 it have the same or less preformance than the 4850 and just becuase you like the look of the card isnt a big factor seeing as you will be looking at your screen, not inside your case. |
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later If you keep waiting for the next thing out you'll be waiting forever, there's always something else around the corner! Given that the 8600GT and the 9500GT are basically the same card, a HD4670 would be a massive upgrade (~ double your existing framerates) and you can currently get a Sapphire version on ebuyer for £47. Assuming you're sticking with your existing 17" monitor you don't really need anything more expensive than that - a 4670 will happily chew through pretty much anything (except Crysis, of course ) at 1280 x 1024...That said, a 4850 (or indeed a 4770) would probably double your framerates again from a 4670, and give you more flexibility if you choose to upgrade your monitor in the next year or so, too. The 5770 / 5750 have similar performance with a much better featureset, and while they have a significant price premium at the minute it may well be worth waiting for those to come down in price, as CAT says. I'd also anticipate a new lower-midrange GPU from ATI soon leveraging 5k series technology (based on the 58x0 -> 57x0 transfer, I'd guess it'll have 400 stream processors, but that's pure speculation ), and perfoming better than a 4670 at ~ £60 street price - I guess it all depends on how long you can wait // // TODO: Add witty signature here // |
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later I'd not bother with the 4770, yes it's a decent boost over your gimped 8600gt, which was never a great card to start with, however at £75 it's way too much. You can pick up a 4850 new for under £80 http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/p...tech/4850.html 4850 @ £72.44 a 2nd hand 8800gt or 9800gt or 4830 would be good if you can find one cheap or a 8800gts 512mb I'd not pay over £50 for one. aka the bargin-bucket-build Is now FINISHED |
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later Another vote to consider a 4850. Fine card and should be available for a good price for the performance. Good luck McT McT CoolerMaster 690 V2 Black / i7 920 @ 3.7ghz / Corsair H50 WC DFI JR X58 1366 MATX / 12GB Corsair XMS3 1600 @ 1410mhz 9-9-9-24 2T 4TB Sata2 HD /ATI RADEON HIS 4870 512MB GDDR5. VISIT MY BRAND NEW HARDWARE&OVERCLOCKING FORUM HERE ! ! |
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| Poor student on a budget Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Surbiton
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later Ah, put in an order for a 4770 already this morning :/ Don't really want to cancel it seeing as it's already confirmed my order. |
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later The XFX HD4770 is one of the better ones and should be a massive upgrade from an 8600GT!! Here are some reviews: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...7/xfx-hd4770/1 http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1897_1.html http://www.elitebastards.com/?option...=723&Itemid=27 http://www.tweaknews.net/reviews/xfx_hd_4770/ Baltar's quote of the day:"All we need is strength! Strength that comes from within! .....and guns! More guns! Bigger guns! Better guns! And when we have those, we will win!" Moose counter-quote of the day:"[Moose] can fly and [moose] can land,Just not very well." |
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later I shouldn't worry, the 4770 has performance very close to the 4850 (better in some games), and the XFX version has the funky big cooler that AMD announced as the reference cooler but hardly made it into any retail cards. Hopefully it should give you plenty of OC headroom // // TODO: Add witty signature here // |
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| Moose Muppet! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Planet Earth
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| Re: Graphics card: Now or later Originally Posted by Ulti You are not going to say "good-bye" to it are we??
Baltar's quote of the day:"All we need is strength! Strength that comes from within! .....and guns! More guns! Bigger guns! Better guns! And when we have those, we will win!" Moose counter-quote of the day:"[Moose] can fly and [moose] can land,Just not very well." |
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| Overclocking Since 1988 | Re: Graphics card: Now or later 8600 GT, you are the weakest link, goodbye. ![]() NOTE TO SELF: Refresh before posting. Desktop (Cy): Intel Core i7 920 D0 @ 3.6GHz, Prolimatech Megahalems, Gigabyte X58-UD5, Patriot Viper DDR3 6GiB @ 1440MHz 7-7-7-20 2T, EVGA NVIDIA GTX 295 Co-Op, Asus Xonar D2X, KWorld PE355-2T, 2x WD Caviar Black 1TB in RAID 0, 4x Samsung EcoDrive 1.5TB F2s in RAID 5, Corsair HX 750W PSU, Coolermaster RC-1100 Cosmos Sport (Custom), 4x Noctua P12s, 6x Noctua S12Bs, Sony Optiarc DVD+/-RW, Windows 7 Professional Edition, Dell 2408WFP, Mirai 22" HDTV MacBook Pro (Voyager): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.6GHz, 4GiB DDR2 RAM, 200GB 7200RPM HDD, NVIDIA 8600GTM 512MB, SuperDrive, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, 15.4" Matte Display HTPC (Delta-Flyer): Intel Core 2 Q8200 @ 2.33GHz, Zotec GeForce 9300-ITX, 2GiB of DDR2 Corsair XMS2 RAM, KWorld PE355-2T, Samsung EcoDrive F2 1.5TB, In-Win BP655, Noctua NF-R8, LiteOn BluRay ROM Drive, Windows 7 Home Premium, 42" Sony 1080p Television Ask Scan for a Quote System | Cy Build Log | HTPC Build Log | i7 (Bloomfield) Overclocking Guide Originally Posted by V, V for Vendetta
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