• HEXUS
  • HEXUS.tv
  • channel
  • gaming
  • lifestyle
  • trust
  • community
  • ESReality
  • HEXUS.community discussion forums

    Welcome to the HEXUS.community discussion forums forums.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

    Go Back   HEXUS.community discussion forums > HEXUS.help - buying advice & technical queries > HEXUS.hardware > Graphics cards and Monitors

    Graphics cards and Monitors Integrated, gaming, mobile and professional – all graphics related stuff is debated and discussed here - truly beyond 3D

    Reply
     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
    Old 04-01-2005, 12:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
    csl
    Member
     
    Join Date: Dec 2004
    Posts: 95
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Question 6800 Fuzzy 2D Image Quality Issue

    Firstly, hi - I'm new here.

    Now, I've recently bought a Gigabyte 6800 (the passive one), with the latest BIOS, running the latest official nV drivers - 66.93 I think.

    I occasionally get a problem where the 2D image quality drops in Windows, with noticeable text blurring and reduced sharpness and focus. As I'm running this on an LCD panel this drop in IQ becomes pretty obvious. Yet, switching to a different colour mode and back again to 32-bit solves the problem temporarily, as it sometimes returns after reboot.

    Although I've used Rivatuner to unlock the masked pipes/shader, I was still getting the same problem before, and I'm not overclocking/overheating it, so I guess it's probably a driver issue. As far as I know the desktop settings are set to the default driver values.

    Anyone know of any fixes/patches/updates that solves this issue, or should it just be a case of waiting for the updated official drivers?

    Thanks.
    csl is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    Join Date: Jul 2004
    Location: Probably Poole
    Posts: 380
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
    Hottentot's system
    Try checking the refresh rates the graphics card is running the LCD at. The LCD handbook should tell you the optimum refresh rate. (normally about 70Hz)
    Hottentot is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 12:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
    csl
    Member
     
    Join Date: Dec 2004
    Posts: 95
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Running at the usual 60Hz.
    csl is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 12:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
    Senior Trouble Maker
     
    muddyfox470's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2004
    Location: moving to Suffolk
    Posts: 2,907
    Thanks: 82
    Thanked 33 Times in 26 Posts
    muddyfox470's system
    View muddyfox470's Twitter Profile
    It is noticably profound in dvds etc???

    There is a problem with hardware/drivers on the 6800's whereby the 'video processor' is broken, and won't work properly!

    SO as in watching dvds you will get noticable lines and problems, NVidia is supposedly finding the problem but many forums inc this one have notes about the progress!
    One post here may help?!? Has anyone got the broken video acceleration units working in the 6800 line of cards?

    However i have never heard anything with problems such as that with text etc!!!

    Unenable some of the pixel pipelines or whatever you have enabled via riva tuner as these are probably causing the problem, despite you saying it was there before, as the ones are hardware masked for a reason, they are defective!

    Mac fancier > white macbook base spec .................. CS: muddyfirebang
    muddyfox470 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 12:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
    Administrator
     
    Join Date: Jul 2003
    Location: Internet
    Posts: 15,998
    Thanks: 374
    Thanked 696 Times in 483 Posts
    The video processor shouldnt affect the 2D text, totaly different area of the GPU used for somthing different.
    I would have gone with Hottentot and guessed the refresh rate too.
    You didnt do the hz fix in rivatuner did you ?, doubt it would be that, but that would mess with the refresh rates too.
    Is it going via a DVI cable or normal Dsub ?


    Last edited by Agent; 04-01-2005 at 01:16 PM..
    Agent is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 12:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
    csl
    Member
     
    Join Date: Dec 2004
    Posts: 95
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Nope - nothing to do with DVD playback or games, as both run fine. It's just during general 2D Windows usage. It's not even consistent about when it pops up, just now and then I notice the lack or sharpness, then switch colour modes to 'reset' it.

    The default masked units make no difference whether masked/unmasked. If it was the defective units causing the problems then surely I wouldn't be able to quickfix by swapping modes, would it?

    Cheers for the help guys.
    csl is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 12:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
    csl
    Member
     
    Join Date: Dec 2004
    Posts: 95
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Smile

    Originally Posted by Agent
    The video processor shouldnt affect the 2D text, totaly different area of the GPU used for somthing different.
    I would have gone with Hottentot and guessed the refresh rate too.
    You didnt do the hz fix in rivatuner did you ?, double it would be that, but that would mess with the refresh rates too.
    Is it going via a DVI cable or normal Dsub ?
    Nope, I haven't touched any refresh settings in Rivatuner, only the unmasking. It's running from the DVI.

    It's not a huge problem, as it rarely occurs, but it's still a little strange when it does, and needless to say this shouldn't occur.
    csl is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 02:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    Join Date: Feb 2004
    Posts: 632
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
    Could it be the screen? I have a philips 15" LCD screen 35ms response connected to a Radeon 7200AIW with an analogue & not digital cable. Over time the screen can and does loose focus in a vertical band central to the screen. The auto recalibration button on the monitor fixes the problem until it returns. It's pretty obvious when it goes off focus but over days/weeks rather than hours so it never bothered me too much.
    ed^chigliak is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 06:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Jan 2005
    Posts: 31
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    maybe screen on that one if its runninga proper dvi cable with no adapters it should run at 60hz, sounds like refresh rated in resolution but if its dvi its automatic to 60hz anyway try it at 75hz and see if your screen prefers that

    ASUS A8V deluxe wifi MB / AMD 64 3500+ Winchester CPU / 1GB Corsair extreme xms 3200 / Aopen geforce 6800GT 256MB Graphics card / Creative Audigy zs sound card / 200GB seagate SATA and 160GB seagate silent drives / Tagan 480UO1 psu / 19"TFT using DVI / HDD cooler / Fan controller / Viper gaming case / 9 fans and very modded!
    AaronTBE is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 06:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
    Banned
     
    myth's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2004
    Location: alone in life
    Posts: 2,554
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Originally Posted by csl
    Firstly, hi - I'm new here.

    Now, I've recently bought a Gigabyte 6800 (the passive one), with the latest BIOS, running the latest official nV drivers - 66.93 I think.

    I occasionally get a problem where the 2D image quality drops in Windows, with noticeable text blurring and reduced sharpness and focus. As I'm running this on an LCD panel this drop in IQ becomes pretty obvious. Yet, switching to a different colour mode and back again to 32-bit solves the problem temporarily, as it sometimes returns after reboot.

    Although I've used Rivatuner to unlock the masked pipes/shader, I was still getting the same problem before, and I'm not overclocking/overheating it, so I guess it's probably a driver issue. As far as I know the desktop settings are set to the default driver values.

    Anyone know of any fixes/patches/updates that solves this issue, or should it just be a case of waiting for the updated official drivers?

    Thanks.

    I have the same problem! I even posted a pic of before and after the image went fuzzy!

    And guys its not his monitor or his cables...

    Edit: here you go...

    ummm... vodoo display...

    Last edited by myth; 04-01-2005 at 06:38 PM..
    myth is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 06:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
    csl
    Member
     
    Join Date: Dec 2004
    Posts: 95
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    myth - yep that's what it looks like. It's very strange isn't it? The fact you mentioned it might only happen when you go online just reminded me - I think I read about an incompatibility between java and the nV drivers, so hopefully the next driver release will cure this. Saying that, I can't seem to replicate the problem with any particular sites. myth - are there any sites that consistently cause this graphic weirdness?
    csl is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 07:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
    Banned
     
    myth's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2004
    Location: alone in life
    Posts: 2,554
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Originally Posted by csl
    myth - yep that's what it looks like. It's very strange isn't it? The fact you mentioned it might only happen when you go online just reminded me - I think I read about an incompatibility between java and the nV drivers, so hopefully the next driver release will cure this. Saying that, I can't seem to replicate the problem with any particular sites. myth - are there any sites that consistently cause this graphic weirdness?

    nope, but it seems that when I have MSN messenger open, and firefox overlaps it, it tends to go fuzzy... but not always! And when I play a vid while surfing the net and a popup apears it goes fuzzy... Heck! Its always going fuzzy! When it hapens to you does your monitor flicker black first?
    myth is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 04-01-2005, 07:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
    csl
    Member
     
    Join Date: Dec 2004
    Posts: 95
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    I'm not sure if it flashes black first, but I'll keep an eye out. I think it might, as though it's changing the resolution - that kind of effect? I've just updated my java runtime to see if it makes any difference.
    csl is offline   Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Breadcrumb
    Go Back   HEXUS.community discussion forums > HEXUS.help - buying advice & technical queries > HEXUS.hardware > Graphics cards and Monitors


    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     
    Thread Tools

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are On
    Pingbacks are On
    Refbacks are On


    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Microsoft Support.... Devilbod General discussion 14 09-04-2007 01:42 AM
    PCI Graphics card with GOOD image quality - eg RADEON bertie Wanted 9 31-07-2004 01:44 AM
    Image Quality on new cards :-) Zak33 HEXUS.wargames 9 24-11-2003 08:51 AM
    Buying A Digital Camera... TomWilko General discussion 7 23-11-2003 10:29 PM



    All times are GMT. The time now is 06:18 AM.

    Any representations/statements made on the HEXUS.community discussion forums are the representations/statements of the author i.e. the person/organisation making them. If any such representations/statements are disputed they are a matter between the parties concerned.
    HEXUS Limited accepts no responsibility for any misrepresentations, inaccurate or false statements made by any person/organisation other than HEXUS Limited employees.
    For more information please read HEXUS Limited's terms, conditions and privacy policy.

    Hosted Exchange

    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
    Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
    © Copyright 2009 HEXUS® Limited. All rights reserved. Unauthorised reproduction strictly prohibited.