NVidia Mid range response to ATI

[Stringent]

IT'S TIME to talk little bit about Nvidia's future plans now that ATI has introduced its mainstream and high end solution based on the speed bumps of previous marchitectures.
Anand got the green light to benchmark but Geforce FX5700 Ultra numbers, we are still not sure his "twice blessed" numbers are final. Anand tested cards at 475MHz/900 MHz memory and we guess those figures aren't too much out of kilter.

We can confirm that Geforce FX 5700 is going to work slower than the now infamous MSI slides suggested. The card will be able to rock on magic 475 and 900 MHz memory, even though MSI suggested that card will work at 500 MHz core and 1000 MHz memory. Well 475MHz is a clear indication that 500MHz was too much in terms of yields and 1000 MHz DDR memory costs that dollar too far.

The memory will use the expected 128 bit interface and we learned that the Ultra version will have DDR 2 memory at 900MHz.

It will be interesting to see which firm – Nvidia or ATI - will win the mid range market, the FX5700 or Radeon 9600XT as both cards should deliver similar performance for $199.

[3Dfx]

9600XT cos of its PS2.0 performance.

But i want Nvidia to kick sum ass again!

[Stringent]

Yeah me too. Be good to see the old king re crowned again. Although at the moment if I did upgrade one of my other boxes, I'd probably get a 9600 Pro ...

[Austin]

Unless you are scared of o/c'ing it is unlikely to be worth plumping for the 9600XT as the 9600PRO has a LOT of headroom in it, it may work out that the XT actually replace the PRO versions, we'll have to see. In any case I can't see nVidia's GF-FX architecture beating ATI esp as more DX9 stuff comes out ... the archy needs severe redevelopment IMHO fromt he ground up. nVidia need hugely higher clock speeds to compete with ATI and even then their archy needs stuff to be written specificly for it. Smart moves at the moment are surely with ATI.

[Nemeliza]

ATI deserve to be king, and it should stay thay way

[3Dfx]

I'd probably get a 9600 Pro

I just built a system for a friend

XP3000+
Radeon 9600pro
1Gb DDR2700
120Gb 8Mb Cache HDD

And OMG its so fast! tried Raven Shield at MAX settings....unreal

[CrapshoT]

nvidia got too big for their boots and started to take everything for granted they need to do what ati did like Austin says they need to start again from scratch cos this new fx series is no way near ati s range at the mo its gonna be a while before they catch up as well no matter what they put out
even die hard nvidia fans are jumping ship now !!!!

[Bindibadgi]

Talked to an nvidia guy today and he was confident that the 5700Us would be the best price to performance bang for the buck when the next gen stuff comes out! Says the performance is a smidgen off the 9800np and cheaper. Should be interesting!

[Austin]

I'd heard nVidia's updates to the 5600 and 5900 series (NV36 & NV38) were simply 10% faster clocked (at best) ... same archy and stuff and thus inferior to the DX9 Rads, plus faster clcoks means more expensive hw and a higher purchase price for the consumer. Still best to see how it pans out but ATI is easily the best product in my mind ... should still be better though, ATI should really have taken advantage of the huge lead they had back with the 9500 & 9700 series.

[Stoo]

Judging from the appearence of the nv38 they've gone back in time to the dustbuster method..

Same core, oc'ed to buggery, and a massive fan/heatsink to stop the beast from turning the guts of the pc into an oven..

I'm agreeing with the others here, nVidia really need to back to basics and rebuild from the ground up, probably aiming for dx10 in a couple of years time (it is about 2 years to build a new chip core isn't it?)

[Stringent]

Well it might not turn the PC into an oven, our rooms on the other hand ...

[Bindibadgi]

Originally posted by Flanderz
Well it might not turn the PC into an oven, our rooms on the other hand ...

Well, considering im a student and we dont heat our houses this is a bonus.