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    Refresh Rate too high for LCD

    My old CRT died today on Sair's PC, s I sent her to get the LCD screen. But yu guessed it. Old monitor 100hz, LCD 60 hz!

    "out of range"

    So how do you lower refresh rate without a monitor to see on? Will safe mode alter it permanently?

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    Think so, alternatively you could swap the graphics card (and then obviously it won't have the drivers to go higher than default).

    BTW pet hate of mine, its "too" high not "to".

    zak edit: I've changed my grammar error

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    cant swap the graphics card, its a SFF with no AGP or PCI slots

    Safe mode didn't work, nor did VGA mode from the same menu

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    TBH, I'm surprised safe mode doesn't work because it should be loading a default VGA driver at default settings.

    If the monitor has DVI, try using that and reboot the PC a couple of times. Depending on the monitor, the electronics within it (in theory) should produce the out of range error, and then reset itself to default, overriding any windows settings. Don't know whether that works with all monitors but definitely does on my Acer 1731M (I accidentally did the same thing as you did but using RiverTuner).

    Alternatively, find another graphics brand different to the one that you own (and / or monitor) and plug that in so that Windows detects that card (or monitor) and prompts you for either the standard VGA driver or standard plug and play monitor .INF file

    Obviously, plugging in any CRT will let you get back into Windows to change the settings.......
    Last edited by davidstone28; 08-01-2005 at 07:20 PM.

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    On another computer, practise the keystrokes needed in order to get to the refresh rate menu with the keyboard (Using the context menu key, tab, space, etc) and then do it blindly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard
    On another computer, practise the keystrokes needed in order to get to the refresh rate menu with the keyboard (Using the context menu key, tab, space, etc) and then do it blindly
    I had the same exact problem, and after 30 minutes of trying, i got it right

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeludedGuy
    I had the same exact problem, and after 30 minutes of trying, i got it right

    Thoes were the days, took me ages... Well more like 45 min Good luck, and remeber to remain calm!

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    what I mean is using Safe Mode doesnt alter the settings in normal windows...cos I used Safe Mode to alter the setting, and then retried normal windows.

    VGA mode wont boot.

    Have uninstalled the drivers in Safe mode, rebooted and then re installed the drivers...EXCEPT that Windows remembers what I last had it at and sets it back again

    Its an Intel 845 chipset and I have no idea what the keystrokes are

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    argh bugger, i did this to a mates pc once my cure was to run system restore (assuming its xp or gulp, ME) to the point before the drivers were installed which, for you could be a very long time ago

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    AFAIK the refresh rate is in the standard "Windows" part of the display settings, unless Intel butchers them all in favour of it's own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33
    Have uninstalled the drivers in Safe mode, rebooted and then re installed the drivers...e
    If you can get into Windows, you can get into the registry to change the settings there. Use Regedit to find:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\system\\CurentControlSet\\Control\\Class

    Then find the one for monitor, expand the tree, find 0000 > Expand Modes and then select the resolution that you have set as default (eg. 1280x1024) > edit Mode 1 to the values that you require. You may also need to do the same for 0001, 0002 etc

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    start insafemodeand use reforce - easyer than fiddling in the registry

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    or just delete the card in Device manager from safe mode and reboot into normal mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by |SilentDeath|
    start insafemodeand use reforce - easyer than fiddling in the registry
    What is 'reforce'?

    Please explain.
    Last edited by Hobart Paving; 08-01-2005 at 09:55 PM.

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    If it`s Windoze then just go into safe mode/control panel/system and delete the card entry. When it restarts it`ll do a driver reinstall and you get to reset all the settings.
    Other way I`ve done it is via vnc but you likely haven`t got that installed.

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    sorted...ta guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
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