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    Re: New graphics card - memory for a few years life

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldjim View Post
    These are Overclockers standard RMA terms https://www.overclockers.co.uk/support-details and experience with XFX as reported in the Scan Forums is absolutely dire
    Of course it may have improved as this was a while ago
    Just to add - I have never used Overclockers (they used to have a really bad reputation which is no longer the case) but for major items, where economic (not too much more expensive) I use Amazon because of their really good return procedure
    Example my monitor where I returned it due to a stuck pixel and almost any other supplier would have rejected it
    While messing about I did a quick search and found this http://forums.hexus.net/pc-hardware-...-improved.html so they will definitely be on my list in future
    Like I said you need to look at this:

    https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sh...postcount=1207
    https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sh...php?t=18716242

    They also made agreements like this(but not sure if they are still active):

    https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sh...php?t=18612805
    https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sh...php?t=18571599

    Using Scan as an example is not useful - they use the fractional refund thing it seems. From my experience of the RMA I did,OcUK are fine.
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    Re: New graphics card - memory for a few years life

    Actually as DF said,get the GTX1060 6GB,which chimes in exactly with what I said. Guru3D said the same. In Hitman the GTX1060 6GB is 14% faster overall it appears,and it gets bigger as the resolution increases too. Remember,Nvidia says it should be a 5% difference.

    Both DF and Guru3D show it drops down to slightly below a GTX970 in the game too.

    The same problem with Rise of the Tombraider:

    http://images.eurogamer.net/2015/art.../80/format/jpg





    DF said there was stuttering for the 3GB card.











    Guru3D is testing a pre-overclocked card with better cooling against the FE GTX1060 6GB.

    The 3GB card is pointless for such a small saving - it will get worse and worse. Games are going to push even more VRAM over the next couple of years. In fact Deus Ex,seems to also push VRAM usage.

    I won't touch one with a bargepole,and everytime cards like it come people get overexcited to recommend to save a small bit of money,and then performance starts going down quicker and quicker,they keep quiet until the next one comes again a few years later.

    The 8800GTS 320MB,8800GT 256MB,HD3850 256MB,GTX460 768MB,HD6950 1GB,HD7850 1GB,etc all say hello!! All quite close to the higher end versions at launch and all fell away quicker than a balloon with a hole in it.

    People always made the same arguments for the other VRAM limited cards - looks all good at launch and then they look progressively worse as time progresses.

    AMD and Nvidia are no fools - the proper SKUs are the RX480 8GB and GTX1060 6GB. The cheaper cards will last less,so you upgrade quicker and if you want a longer lasting card spend the extra £30 to £40.

    I supposed some people like getting a "bargain" even if it means the cheap fool pays twice(that also applies to the RX470 4GB at £190 to £200. LMAO at the price).

    History is not on the side of people defending VRAM gimped performance cards.

    Personally it won't affect me(or people I know in real life as I will tell them why spending that extra is worth it),but it makes me feel sorry for people who get the impression it will be fine,as its their money which is being wasted as time progresses.

    So I am not sure what the point of the GTX1060 3GB card:
    1.)Not enough VRAM as it can get pushed even at 1080P in very intensive games(both 2016 games)
    2.)Not enough VRAM meaning it limits your monitor upgrade choices if you want to get a higher resolution monitor
    3.)Less cores
    4.)Only £30 to £40 difference
    5.)Probably less resale value and less re-use value for a secondary rig

    I am not sure what why people are defending this card at all - even the 8800GT 512MB was 40% more($70 to $80) than the 8800GT 256MB and had the same cores,and it still did not get recommended that much IIRC.

    I am not sure why people are getting so excited over the GTX1060 3GB - the GTX1060 6GB at 20% more(or basically £30 to £40 more) and has 10% more shaders.

    The same goes with the RX470 which is now more like £190 to £200 too. You might as well get an RX480 8GB.

    I think we need to agree to disagree about this - i don't think the GTX1060 3GB has what it takes to keep up with the 6GB version over 1,2 or even 3 years.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 30-08-2016 at 09:50 PM.

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