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    Old 01-11-2009, 03:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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    Unhappy 3dMark Vantage Cpu Score much worse with new video card.

    So I have the following installed in my system.
    e6600
    8800Gt
    Gigabyte GA-73vm-S2
    4GB G.Skill Ram
    Rosewill 600W power supply.

    With this setup I received the following score from 3dmark vantage, on performance setting.
    GPU 5379
    CPU 21152

    I recently purchased a Asus EAH4870 BK 1GB and after installing with all the other hardware exactly the same, these were my new scores:
    GPU 8801
    CPU 4106

    What can account for my CPU score dropping to almost 20% of what is was before? When testing games I get roughly the same FPS with the new video card. Maybe 10-15 FPS more in some games. This is definitely not the boost I was expecting.

    The ATI card was installed after reinstalling windows, so my nvidia drivers were most certainly eliminated. My first thought was that it's possible that my power supply is inadequate and that the new video card is hogging power away from my CPU. The system is completely stable. I ran Orthos for a couple hours to make sure. Overclocking my CPU to around 3.150Ghz yielded slightly better frame rates but still nothing like what I'd expect with a new video card. All video drivers were up to date downloaded from the aTI website.

    What are your thoughts?
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    Old 01-11-2009, 04:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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    Re: 3dMark Vantage Cpu Score much worse with new video card.

    Possibly PhysX being enabled. It counts towards the CPU score, but shouldn't..

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    Old 06-11-2009, 08:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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    Re: 3dMark Vantage Cpu Score much worse with new video card.

    What resolution are you playing the games at??? If you are using a low one, then you arent going to see as much of an effect, as I believe that you are more CPU bound at lower resolutions (hence why most CPU tests run at 640x480).

    Also, what games are you testing with? Are they are RTS or FPS or other??? You should def get a nice increase in FPS - but what you really want to see are higher minimum frame rate, hence a smoother experience.

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    Old 06-11-2009, 09:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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    Re: 3dMark Vantage Cpu Score much worse with new video card.

    This is just the fake boosting of CPU score that you get from nVidia PhsyX. Now you don't have an nVidia card you're seeing the real CPU score.
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    Old 06-11-2009, 10:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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    Re: 3dMark Vantage Cpu Score much worse with new video card.

    Another reason why PhysX is bad!

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    Re: 3dMark Vantage Cpu Score much worse with new video card.

    Originally Posted by nightkhaos View Post
    Another reason why PhysX is bad!
    Hehe - it's not bad in itself, just the way it's used, especially in this case, to give such a misleading result!
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    Old 06-11-2009, 11:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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    Re: 3dMark Vantage Cpu Score much worse with new video card.

    Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Hehe - it's not bad in itself, just the way it's used, especially in this case, to give such a misleading result!
    Look at my 8080! It has a 3D mark score 27K!

    PhysX is helpful, and it does improve the performance and playablity of some games, but some aspects of it, namely vendor lock in, I don't like.

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    Originally Posted by V, V for Vendetta
    No, what you have are bullets, and the hope that when your guns are empty, I'm no longer standing, because if I am... you'll all be dead before you've reloaded.
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    Re: 3dMark Vantage Cpu Score much worse with new video card.

    In future, if you want to get an accurate score in 3DMark Vanatage, and you have an nVidia card in your system, make sure you disable PhysX. Sure having a higher CPU score might seem 1337 but in reality it doesn't give a true reflection of what your system is capable of. HWbot doesn't allow for Vantage scores wih PhysX enabled and most benchmarkers don't count PhysX obtained scores as legit either.
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