HEXUS.beans :: ATI X1800, X1600, X1300, GTO, GTO2? Confused? Not us

**Steve** · 08-09-2005, 03:10 PM

The name of this new card will be X1800, which we have seen on the 'net already today. But the real juice of this bean is that ATI have some more SKUs coming and they will have the following names:

http://www.hexus.net/content/beanz/b...lld19JRD0xNTY4

Xaneden · 08-09-2005, 03:35 PM

X1800 which is based on the R520 VPU.

X1600 which is their mid range SKU based on RV530.

X1300 is their low-end SKU based on RV515.

Why does the X1600's VPU have a higher number?

Aeria · 08-09-2005, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Xcelsion

Why does the X1600's VPU have a higher number?

I agree it should have a lower number, but note that the X1600 is based on the RV530 where V stands for "value".

jonny4288 · 08-09-2005, 03:50 PM

Does seem a bit odd, id of thought rv530 would be more powerfull than rv520, hmm maybe andrzej can shed some light on this

FraZor · 08-09-2005, 03:51 PM

IIRC, the chip number has nothig to do with the level of tech or anything. Its more an indication of when it was designed in the scheme of things.

R=Radeon
V=Value
###=Chip design ID

So R520 was designed before RV530 (which is therefore assumedly a simplified, cheaper to produce R520). Whereas RV515 is probably based on a re-engineering of an R4## chip. Probably a marrying of the X300 and X700 or there abouts.

FraZor · 08-09-2005, 03:53 PM

None: By simplified I mean its a smaller sized chip with lower transister counts due to less technology support, fewer pipelines, simpler memory controller. I.e. anything that makes the die smaller and easier to produce.

Rys · 08-09-2005, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by FraZor

IIRC, the chip number has nothig to do with the level of tech or anything. Its more an indication of when it was designed in the scheme of things.

R=Radeon
V=Value
###=Chip design ID

So R520 was designed before RV530 (which is therefore assumedly a simplified, cheaper to produce R520). Whereas RV515 is probably based on a re-engineering of an R4## chip. Probably a marrying of the X300 and X700 or there abouts.

That's not quite right.

RV515 is a variant of R520, RV530 is a variant of R580. The design for all four was started at the same time, too.

jonny4288 · 08-09-2005, 05:11 PM

which model is the r580, crossfire ?

iMc · 08-09-2005, 11:26 PM

damn ATi keeps on rolling out the SKU names... getting ever harder to keep up.

Someone want to put all the SKU's in order of goodness for from 9800pro up please!

Started to get a bit lost when all the X800 variants showed up.

zakelwe · 09-09-2005, 05:49 AM

Why's Rys writing as Mr Deeplung ?

I really hope and AGP part comes along as I do not wish to upgrade my entire system yet to accomodate a PCIe card.

Regards

Andy

**PD HEXUS** · 09-09-2005, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by zakelwe

Why's Rys writing as Mr Deeplung ?

he's absolutely not Andy - i don't know why you'd presume he was!?

furthermore i'm shocked you'd think Willy's atrocious grammar was Rys' hand...

fyi HEXUS never really has any advance warning when its groving reporter Willy Deeplung will whip out some HEXUS.hardstuff...

it’s also true to say that we have even less of an intimate knowledge of Fanny’s movements...

once they've dug up the beans, we hand them out to you and watch how they sprout...

Originally Posted by zakelwe

I really hope and AGP part comes along as I do not wish to upgrade my entire system yet to accomodate a PCIe card.

afaik - and i sure don't know it all - everything CrossFire seems (even must) be PCIe only...

cheers,

PD

MrP · 09-09-2005, 09:28 AM

someone should get nvidia and ATI in a room and knock their heads together.

i dunno about anyone else, but their naming schemes, model numbers, variants and god only knows what else just had me totally confused. it cant be helping their sales figures or their customer satidfaction when they have to spend hours choocing what card when it should really be a simple choice

Decemoto · 09-09-2005, 12:51 PM

I suppose that their various models are all carefully slotted in to keep up with demand and make the best use of yields. Remember, a lot of mid range cards are actually high end cards that haven't made the full grade. I fully agree with the statement about names though, it would be refreshing to have a complete overhaul of naming systems from one of the companies, with a simple indicator of quality and a solid brand name. "Geforce" and "Radeon" mean absolutely nothing now, as they refer to dozens of cards each. I always chuckle when I ask somebody what graphics card they've got and they say, "erm... well it's a Geforce one..."

[GSV]Trig · 12-09-2005, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by iMc

Someone want to put all the SKU's in order of goodness for from 9800pro up please!

Anyone?

**Steve** · 12-09-2005, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by [GSV]Trig

Anyone?

We're working on a little something. It'll take a little while to put together properly though

Speed · 22-09-2005, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

We're working on a little something. It'll take a little while to put together properly though

Any news on this?

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