Supreme Commander is not going to have DX10 after all.

[kalniel]

Once touted as a game that might come with DX10 features, then later as one that would have them included in a later patch, the developers have now explained that DX10 will not be patched in.

http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?t=10802

Originally Posted by SonofShagrat, GPG Employee

Hello All;


As the patch rapidly approaches, many of our community members are wanting to know the status of Supcom and DX10. This is the word on this subject.

The opportunity to integrate DX10 came along very late in the development process for Supreme Commander. The window of opportunity was very narrow, but it was felt that if everything came together we could integrate this exciting jump forward into Supcom.

Despite the best efforts of our own team and our partners from Microsoft and Nvidia, the timing simply did not line up. The availability of DX10 hardware, final releases of Vista itself, and the solid drivers simply did not line up with the necessary time frames in our development cycle. Having missed that window, our dev team has focused on graphical improvements that will benefit a far wider audience than the still very small but growing segment of Vista users with DX10 compatible cards. Having missed that window, the resources necessary to integrate the tech do not make sense compared to what can be accomplished for that greateraudience.

Chris Taylor and GPG are rightly known for pushing the envelope of technology and innovation, integrating the latest technologies into GPG's games. While hindsight might make it clear that the time frames did not align to successfully integrate DX10 with Supreme Commander, it was felt that it was worth the shot we took.

The bottom line: Directx 10 support will not be patched into Supreme Commander or its expansion packs. GPG looks forward to integrating this exciting technology into future projects. We, like the rest of PC gaming community, are looking forward to the first DX10 games in the coming months.

[dangel]

TBH who cares? What would it really of added to the game?

[kalniel]

Quite. I think some people were jumping on it as one of the first games to get DX10, perhaps out of desperation to justify their purchases

[cptwhite_uk]

Any news on whne the patch is likely to be released, I'm all set for a big gaming session tonight

[kalniel]

Soon, but no specific date I think. They're already preparing people about it over at the forums, where they've already listed the balance changes.

[MrChris]

who cares about dx10

expansion packs!!!

[GeorgeTuk]

As everyone else above says, it would have been a waste of time, the graphics aren't that great that you could take full advantage of it.

Better to make a stable balanced game through the patches.

[danroyle]

devs have been saying for a while that there would be no dx10 added

[kalniel]

Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk

Any news on whne the patch is likely to be released, I'm all set for a big gaming session tonight

Newest info is it's out on wednesday!

[Veles]

I agree, would've been far more effort than it's worth, would've been nice, but I'm guessing the process to make it and test it would've been long and expensive.

[kalniel]

They jumped the gun.. it's out Lots of improvements.. I even think one of my suggestions (cartographic view) made it in

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Patch Notes for build 325X
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MISC
* New cartographic view for both main view and strategic map.
* Multiplayer/Skirmish maps now have a "no rush" timer option.
* Map props have been altered to balance player start positions.
* Overall performance enhancements in regards to memory management and AI.
* Saltrock Colony's civilian defenses altered for balance.
* Assist Icon now properly shows when mousing over a Quantum Gateway.
* Starting Mass Extractor locations adjusted for all ranked maps.
* Weapons that do splash damage no longer destroy other projectiles.
* Improved pathing and unit formation behavior, especially for naval and experimental units.
* Fixed issue where game would lock up if you were at unit capacity in campaign mode and captured an enemy unit.
* Ferry Beacon now has a Strategic Icon.
* Weapons now perform a terrain blocking test when choosing the best target to engage.
* Improved behavior for Engineers that are patroling and reclaiming resources.
* Attack Ground is now equivalent of Attack Move to Position.
* New Hold Ground stance lets units attack the ground instead of performing an attack move to a position.
* Fixed double Mass Extractor exploit.

AIR
* Scorcher now deals its damage faster.
* Build cost of Tier 3 spy planes reduced by roughly half, and they now have limited-range Omni.
* Transports will no longer chase planes.
* Gemini has been retuned to address a bug with its missiles.
* Tier 1 bombers now drop their bombs using a physics-based model.
* Zeus's health increased.
* Revenant's damage increased.
* Anti-air guns now prioritize bombers, gunships and transports over Interceptors and scouts.
* Gunships with AA do not chase planes.
* Multiple transports now use one Ferry Waypoint, as opposed to one per transport.
* New Dock Button orders planes to auto-land and refuel at nearest Air Staging Platform or carrier.

GROUND
* Aurora: Acceleration increased slightly and top speed lowered.
* Cybran ACU damage reduced; rate of fire increased; overall DPS reduced.
* Mech Marine can now fire correctly from a transport; health increased.
* Omni Sensors no longer have sonar capabilities.
* Flare: Damage increased.
* Energy Storage economy reduced; explosion radius increased.
* Cybran TML defenses improved and now have a charge time before launch.
* Aeon ACU Advanced Resource Allocation System cost reduced.
* T3 land factories upgrade cost increased.
* UEF ACU nuke now behaves like other nukes.
* T3 Cybran Siege Assault Bots will no detonate into an EMP if they are destroyed while under construction.
* Cybran ACU and sACU now have a general cloaking button that handles both cloak and stealth.
* Fixed an issue where factories stopped responding if the unit being built was killed during the "factory lower" animation.
* Shields will no longer fully recover shield health while in an Energy-negative economy.
* Shields no longer prevent nuke damage.
* Commanders now display warp-in effect during online ranked games.
* All Supreme AI now begin building at the proper time in skirmish rather than waiting for 13 seconds.
* Engineers can now assist Shield Generators and will repair and recharge shields while shield is taking damage.

* Tier 1 Tanks
- Striker has increased movement speed and has been retuned.

* Tier 2 Tanks
- Retuned to perform better vs. Tier 1 units.
- Increased movement speed.
- Obsidian Energy drain decreased.

* Tier 2 Artillery:
- Miasma: Damage reduced.
- Klinkhammer: More accurate.
- Gunther: More accurate, damage increased.

* Tier 2 Point Defenses
- Now lead their targets.
- Oblivion and Triad no longer deal damage to friendly targets.

* Tier 3 Siege Assault Bots
- Firing-range reduced.
- Vision-range reduced.
- Acceleration reduced.
- Harbinger and Titan build cost increased.
- Titan turret speed increased.
- Loyalist build cost decreased and DPS increased.

SEA
* Can no longer build Strategic Missile Defenses on water.
* Salem now moves similar to Aeon and UEF Destroyers; its speed on land has been increased and only goes on land if it has been given a land-based waypoint.
* UEF and Cybran Naval factories are now more susceptible to torpedoes.
* T3 submarines are now significantly cheaper to build, their TML damage has been reduced and their nuke cost increased.
* Amphibious units (that move along the sea floor) now have water vision equal to their normal vision. They can also now detect submarines.
* Carriers (including the CZAR) can now build Tier 1 through Tier 3 air units.
* Cybran carrier anti-air guns DPS decreased and accuracy increased.
* T3 Sonar Buoy’s cost reduced, health changed and sonar range increased.
* T1 and T2 Sonar Buoy’s health increased.
* T3 Aeon Sonar Buoy anti-torpedo rate of fire decreased.
* T1 Torpedo Launchers now have sonar.
* T3 Aeon Strategic Missile Submarine's tactical missiles can now be targeted by TMD's.

* Frigates:
- Health increased
- Build cost decreased
- DPS increased
- Beacon range decreased
- Anti-torpedo system retuned.

* Submarines:
- Sylph build cost increased and DPS decreased.
- Sliver DPS decreased, build cost decreased and health increased.

* Destroyers
- Build cost retuned.

* Battleships
- Summit and Galaxy build cost decreased.

EXPERIMENTALS
* Galactic Colossus and Monkeylord now always respond to attacks from Siege Assault Bots.

* Atlantis:
- Health reduced.
- Torpedo system retuned.

* CZAR:
- Health increased.
- Beam damage reduced.
- Flak damage radius increased.
- Crash damage reduced.

* Fatboy
- Build cost decreased.
- Can no longer build Engineers while underwater.

* Galactic Colossus
- Build cost decreased.
- Movement improved.

* Mavor:
- Accuracy decreased.
- Turret speeds increased.
- Build cost reduced.

* Monkeylord
- Turret ranges increased.

* Scathis:
- Energy drain per shot reduced.
- Health increased.
- Max firing radius decreased.

* Soul Ripper:
- Ground-damage doubled and splash damage added.
- Air-to-air damage reduced.
- Crash damage and radius increased.
- Build cost retuned.

* Tempest:
- Acceleration increased.
- Turn rate increased.
- Main cannon radius increased.
- Build cost decreased.

General Game UI
- Game no longer pauses when you minimize or press Alt-Tab.
- Messages are broadcast to every player when alliances are formed or broken.
- There is now a confirmation dialog for self-destructing units. (You can turn the self-destruct confirmation off in the Options Menu under the Interface Tab.)
- Removed auto-pausing from all dialogs except the Main Escape Menu in single player.
- Allied victory and share resources are now active by default.
- Construction/Queue Bars now shrink and grow according to how many options are available.
- Save, Load and Replay dialogs can now be sorted by name or date created/modified.
- A dialog similar to the victory dialog is now displayed when a replay has finished playing.
- Fixed duplicate weather effects showing up in right-hand corner of the world.

Map Control
- There is a new window that controls several things:
- Toggle Resource Icons on/off.
- Toggle Cartographic mode on/off.
- Toggle Minimap on/off (even in the minimal view).
- This dialog can be accessed by either pressing 'Y' or by clicking on the former 'Minimap' button.

Quick Select Groups / Avatars
- Units are automatically assigned to the same Quick Select Group that the constructing factory is assigned to.
- To support this, factories are now filtered out of Quick Select Groups when recalling them for selection.
- Shift + Control Group # will now add that control group's units to your current selection.
- Shift + Clicking on any Quick Select button (Commanders, Idle Engineers, Control Groups) will add an idle Engineer to your current selection.
-Shift + Control + Control Group number now selects only factories in the Control Group.
- Support Commanders now have their own idle tab.
- Fixed a bug with Avatar Icons that would play the "Commander is under attack" voice for any non-commander units modded to show up as an Avatar.
- Avatars should now refresh properly when the focus army is changed.

Strategic Markers
- You can send markers to your allies by pressing the following keys:
- F5 - Sends a "General Alert" marker.
- F6 - Sends a "Move" marker.
- F7 - Sends an "Attack" marker.
- F8 - Creates a custom marker.
- General Alert, Move and Attack markers disappear after 10 seconds.
- Custom markers are permanent until the user deletes them (Shift+Ctrl+Right Click) or their army is defeated.
- Custom markers may be moved by any ally. Hold Shift and drag the circle to where you want the marker to be located.

Options
- Added an option to lock the cursor to one screen when in full-screen mode. This is useful when you are playing full-screen on a dual-monitor systems and you're only using one monitor.
- Added options that control both keyboard scroll and keyboard rotate speeds.
- Moved keyboard pan accelerate key from Shift to Control.
- Added option to toggle bloom rendering. (Toggling this off may increase performance. This has also been set to off for the low configuration.)
- Separated render background option into render skycube and render background.

Lobby
- Changed tomato color to purple.
- Added a No Rush option for custom games. Does not apply to ranked games.
- During the specified No Rush time limit, you cannot issue orders to your units outside of your initial area. In addition, you will see a ring around your base that shows the area that you are limited to, along with a timer in the Score Display that shows the amount of time remaining. - Revamped the way map selection and options are displayed.
- All players now see a "display panel" where the option list used to be.
- The host can access a secondary configuration screen to change the map and game options.
- Rollover feedback shows which slot correlates with which spawn slot on the map.

Build Mode
- The B key now toggles build mode on and off. (Esc. still toggles it off, as well.)
- As a consequence, some keys needed to be remapped in order to accommodate the new functionality for the B key.

Mod Manager
- It is EXTREMELY likely that pre-patch mods will not be compatible with the new mod system.
- Mods now key from a GUID rather than by name.
- Exclusive flag works
- Before and after tables work.
- Conflicts table works.
- Example mods were removed from the main game data files as they were confusing players. The resource rich mod is still included since many players use that mod.
- Mod hooking now concatenates so local variables will be accessible.
- Added a new lua scd that moves generic engine files to their own scd.

Mod Support
- SupcomDataPath.lua has been changed so that directories are mounted instead of defined as a search path.
- OpenURL function is exposed to Lua scripts. It is simple to use:
Usage: OpenURL("http://forums.gaspowered.com")
- OpenURL will only open approved protocols. These protocols can be found in SupComDataPath.lua (in the same directory as the game binary).
- Please post in the mod developer support forums if you would like a new protocol supported.
- PrintText can now be used on the sim or user side to display text on the screen during a session.
Usage: PrintText(text, fontSize, fontColor [format: aarrggbb], duration [seconds], location [leftcenter|center|rightcenter])
- You no longer need to rename .zip to .scd
- For additional changes to mod structure, see this post:
http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?t=7819

File Structure
- There is now an option to save replays, screenshots and saved games in your My Documents folder.
- With this option enabled, you'll only be able to see files in the My Documents folder.
- If you have files saved in the App Data location, they won't appear in your file picker unless you turn the option off or manually move the files to the new locations.
- Files stored in the My Documents folder will not be removed if you uninstall Supreme Commander.
- You'll find the files in My Documents\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander\
- For convenience, game mods may now be placed in My Documents\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander\mods
- Game maps may now be placed in My Documents\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander\maps

[cptwhite_uk]

Sweet I'll be logging on when I get home then

[noTHINGface]

Man, now that is what I call a change log - impressive level of support.

[qbie]

Indeed, quite a Changelog.

Downloading now!

[cptwhite_uk]

There's been a significant tweak to the gameplay, low tech stuff does seem more relevant now. And finally the experimentals seem more worth while instead of walking huge amount of mass for your enemy to destroy then reclaim. I'm still of the opinion the reclaim speed is WAY to high.

[kstanley7]

Supreme commander has been one of my fav games since it came out, just a shame that it's not gonna have dx10