XBox 360 or Not?

[chuckskull]

I actually did this for GTA4 with an Xbox360, I like the PS3 and will buy one eventually, but I dont like paying more than about £200 for consoles.

Had been pondering a new console for a while though, but none of the games screamed buy me. If you have the money go for it. I did and I think it was worth the money. Getting a dvi output and sound together is a bit tricky as the main composite plug on the xbox covers the HDMI port just enough that the cable wont fit.

For me it was just a matter of moving to the front room rather than the PC, something to bear in mind though, I'm sure there's a way to do it, but I've not looked yet tbh.

[j.o.s.h.1408]

Originally Posted by beanbandit

In the AoC thread you complained that TiG had told you to shut up, and wondered where the mods were. Now your calling Stewart Brainless, hows that not being rude? Hypocrite? Oh yes.

i diddnt say he was brainless. read again pal. i said that if he still suported MS after his console breaking 5 times then his got to be either a ms fan or brainless. are you brainless? diddnt you read my post propery?

[gtech]

Originally Posted by PenguinJim

I think I do! I don't have the best memory for names, but I'm pretty sure I've found the posts of at least a couple of those people to be quite fair and intelligent.

Stewart wasnt directing that post to us, i think he was just asking us (group of names) if we disagree with his statement.

[Butuz]

Whats with all the personal abuse / arguments going back and fore? Its a games console FFS - get a frikkin life!

The Xbox has strong points (games, xbox live)
The Xbox has weak points (reliability)
The PS3 has Strong Points (reliability, blue ray)
The PS3 has weak points (lack of games, crap online service)

Just buy which ever one suits you and be done with it.

Butuz

[CaseyV9]

Why you getting angry when someone puts down your favorite plastic and electronic machines?

C'mon now, listen to Bob:



Bob say "Stop fighting"

Bob wise, Bob powerfall. Listen to Bob.

[j.o.s.h.1408]

i agree its pathetic arguing but as soon as i wrote down my experience about the 360 i get abused by stewert who couldnt grasp what i was saying. instead of disucssing my post in an adult manner he goes and responds like a immature person. if he diddnt liek what i said about the 360 he should of posted a mature response instead of indicating i am a child saying that the 360 is crap whilst the ps3 is the best without any reason.

had he bothered to read what i said properly he would not have been saying that. he probably read the last line of my post.

its hard to critise a console without some immature person ruining it and starting a argument over nothing. i thought this forum was filled with mature dicussions but lately its becoming just like gamespot's forums

[gtech]

Originally Posted by CaseyV9

I was just wondering. I was reading the PS3 questions POST and saw the bit on getting a picture with a monitor.
I have a PHILIPS TFT monitor the max resolution is 1280 x 1024 and a max refresh rate of 75.
I have only a DVI cable coming out the monitor, it cannot be removed.
No way is it HD ready.

I'm pretty sure that with an XBox 360, with the help of a HDMI to DVI adapter I could get it working.

But with a PS3 you would need a HD ready TV only?

Yes i beleive your monitor is not hdcp (not too sure though)which is needed to play ps3, i've come across these which could be useful.

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[directhex]

on page 1, you made all valid points. on page 2, to start with, as well. except then your replies changed - starting with reply 56 - "everything you could wish for". that's where you start to lose the upper ground - where you're arguing that the ps3 in no way has any points which are inferior to the 360, and that the ps3 is an object of dreamy desire. it's not. it is, as you maturely & sensibly posted previously, more reliable, host to some features not found on the 360 (like user-upgradable disks, or blu-ray, or built-in wifi), and has some exclusive titles that may interest people who want those titles.

but the 360 has features the ps3 doesn't, and you go out of your way to claim they don't matter, which just makes you look foolish. what about the ps3 only doing TV-style connections and resolutions, whereas the 360 has a vga cable and will run non-TV resolutions (like CaseyV9's 1280x1024) natively without fuss? which list of pros/cons outweighs which list of pros/cons is down to individual choice, but trying to brush one under the carpet to back up your argument just makes you look silly.

re-read reply 56, and reply 59 (which is the one Stewart went off on one about). go on, re-read them. do they look like the postings of a thought-out discussion, or a whiny fanboy? i'm not calling you one, i'm asking you to read the posts & see how they come across.

then read reply 62. "this ps3 issue doesn't matter because LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"? yet more perceivable fanboyism.

the argument after that, well, i won't condone it (Stewart is to blame too, don't think i'm singling you out), but you have to realise why people react the way they do, and I hope I've explained that

[Lee @ SCAN]

At the end of the day, electronic components fail - it's part of life in all honesty.

In fact, when my xbox RROD'ed for the first time, I was actually glad for the break because I was spending too much time carressing the joypad till 2am playing online and having some serious banter with drunken Scots and Americans alike, and with the console getting fixed, it gave me time to divert my attention to other things like the mountain of washing which was gathering in the washing basket.

[directhex]

Originally Posted by Lee @ SCAN

At the end of the day, electronic components fail - it's part of life in all honesty.

In fact, when my xbox RROD'ed for the first time, I was actually glad for the break because I was spending too much time carressing the joypad till 2am playing online and having some serious banter with drunken Scots and Americans alike, and with the console getting fixed, it gave me time to divert my attention to other things like the mountain of washing which was gathering in the washing basket.

the 360 failure rate is ENORMOUS compared to most devices though. it's not healthy.

[j.o.s.h.1408]

Originally Posted by directhex

on page 1, you made all valid points. on page 2, to start with, as well. except then your replies changed - starting with reply 56 - "everything you could wish for". that's where you start to lose the upper ground - where you're arguing that the ps3 in no way has any points which are inferior to the 360, and that the ps3 is an object of dreamy desire. it's not. it is, as you maturely & sensibly posted previously, more reliable, host to some features not found on the 360 (like user-upgradable disks, or blu-ray, or built-in wifi), and has some exclusive titles that may interest people who want those titles.

but the 360 has features the ps3 doesn't, and you go out of your way to claim they don't matter, which just makes you look foolish. what about the ps3 only doing TV-style connections and resolutions, whereas the 360 has a vga cable and will run non-TV resolutions (like CaseyV9's 1280x1024) natively without fuss? which list of pros/cons outweighs which list of pros/cons is down to individual choice, but trying to brush one under the carpet to back up your argument just makes you look silly.

re-read reply 56, and reply 59 (which is the one Stewart went off on one about). go on, re-read them. do they look like the postings of a thought-out discussion, or a whiny fanboy? i'm not calling you one, i'm asking you to read the posts & see how they come across.

then read reply 62. "this ps3 issue doesn't matter because LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"? yet more perceivable fanboyism.

the argument after that, well, i won't condone it (Stewart is to blame too, don't think i'm singling you out), but you have to realise why people react the way they do, and I hope I've explained that

umm i can see where your comming from now, its a shame stewert couldnt reply like you did. i just read through it again and youre responses where in a very mature way unlike stewerts. i suppsoe not everyone is mature here and will always get the odd one posting garbage like that but i can see where your comming from though.

the 360's are great consoles but the reliability spoils it. had they built a console that has a low failure rate then imo i think that the ps3 would have no chance of comming back. i wont be surprised if half of the ps3's sold in the last 5-6 months was because people where fed up of there 360's breaking

[CaseyV9]

I really is a pain in the ass.

It's just corparations finding more ways to fleece us of hard earned cash.

For a £250 XBox 360, it seemed I could play all the latest games now and in a couple of years time and it'll look great. Titles like the up and coming Fallout 3. Problem is the XBox 360 cooks itself to death. Which could make it more trouble than it's worth.

PS3 is more reliable but they demand a HDTV! What? That would probably set me back somewhere between £500 to £600 to set that up and running.

For £500 - £600 I could turn my PC into a something that could flatten both consoles.
Problem is, I refuse to throw away perfectly good components away just for the sake of playing cames.
My PC runs fine right now.

So what do I do? GTA IV will probably be out on PC in 6 months. But by then the developers will have found a way to make it more power hungry and demand a new DX10 card to make the most out of it.

If a PS3 or XBox 360 can run games in high Def with GPU that uses yesterday's technology then why can't a PC do it?

Either way, they'll find a way to get in your wallets.

[kalniel]

Originally Posted by CaseyV9

So what do I do? GTA IV will probably be out on PC in 6 months. But by then the developers will have found a way to make it more power hungry and demand a new DX10 card to make the most out of it.

If a PS3 or XBox 360 can run games in high Def with GPU that uses yesterday's technology then why can't a PC do it?

So true - you'll find some games can look great with yesturday's technology, but I fear MS bloatware can get in the way for other console ports.

[gtech]

Originally Posted by CaseyV9

PS3 is more reliable but they demand a HDTV!

well not quite you can play them on standard definition tv's.

[s_kinton]

Originally Posted by CaseyV9

For a £250 XBox 360, it seemed I could play all the latest games now and in a couple of years time and it'll look great. Titles like the up and coming Fallout 3. Problem is the XBox 360 cooks itself to death. Which could make it more trouble than it's worth.

PS3 is more reliable but they demand a HDTV! What? That would probably set me back somewhere between £500 to £600 to set that up and running.

The PS3 comes with a scart lead as standard, so its set up to work on any TV right out the box...

As for the 360 price. The peripherals are the killer....add in the wireless adaptor and a bigger HDD and you're looking at a very heft price increase. That and the reliability put me off. Wifi is a must for me and £50 for the adaptor is a disgrace.

I think in another 6 months this arguement will change. The PS3 game library will be more mature, dualshock will be widely available (already available at online stores such as scan and blahdvd), in game chat and invites along with Home will hopefully arrive in the summer. Sony have been slow off the ground with some of these features, but does anyone remember when the 360 could only download OR play a game and had to be running full pelt?

The fact is that the consoles take time to mature, 360 is the buy for all round maturity, PS3 is only working towards it right now.

[j.o.s.h.1408]

question: if the ps3 was out the same time has the 360, would ps3 have around the same amount of titles has the 360? would Home be availabled by now?