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    Old 13-07-2008, 11:26 PM   #17 (permalink)
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    Originally Posted by mediaboy View Post
    You mean people actually play these games? Woh... I thought I was wierd...




    Only kidding.. go ahead if you want to spend your time kicking a virtual ball around a virtual field... I can't quite see the point of it when I have a perfectly decent football close to hand, but I think that some of you must have some reasons to enjoy it.... maybe.
    So u got 11 guys and fullsize football pitch and a ref at hand also? With another team to play against?

    thought not

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    Old 13-07-2008, 11:41 PM   #18 (permalink)
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    Erm... 11 guys? you need 22 for a 11 a side match and ref...

    And yes, if I so wish I can normally find that many kicking a ball around.. if only that few, but not the fullsize football pitch.

    They tire me out too much... I am like.. 14...

    Originally Posted by JK Ferret
    A bit beyond? So, you only meant to write 8 paragraphs, but accidentally ended up writing an encyclopedia-length opinion?
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    Old 14-07-2008, 01:17 AM   #19 (permalink)
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    Originally Posted by mediaboy View Post
    Erm... 11 guys? you need 22 for a 11 a side match and ref...

    And yes, if I so wish I can normally find that many kicking a ball around.. if only that few, but not the fullsize football pitch.

    They tire me out too much... I am like.. 14...
    You need 23 for an 11 a side match and ref .11 guys including urself obv , plus another team

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    Old 14-07-2008, 03:53 AM   #20 (permalink)
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    but us fifa fans have actualy gave points to why fifa is better yet PES fans dont.Unless some PES fan who has played BOTH games can give us some useful points
    But does someone really need to do that? Is that how a game is rated nowadays, by how people argue about it on the net? If there's more FIFA fans than PES fans, then FIFA wins?

    I own both. I play them both the same amount. I like both. Does that mean the case is closed as a draw? Nah, of course not, as it's only what I like, it doesn't mean it applies to everyone. If only others could see that...
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    nonsense,
    If you say so I know this sort of debate gets people wound up, God knows why, but could you at least try and be civil, eh?
    people argue over games relative merits all the time, the fact that people think other people are wrong is the basis for any sort of debate on this, it'd be even more boring if people turnt into liberal drips who reduced their opinions simply to their own subjectivity.
    Right, so rather than giving your own opinon, in a constructive manner, and listening to the other side of the argument, what you should supposedly do is say things like...
    Anyone who's been a fan of Pro Evo over the years for these very reasons and yet claims Pro Evo 2008 is superior to FIFA 08 is a liar or a retard.
    People have different opinions to you. Doesn't mean they're liars, as they're saying what they believe. And as for the other term, come on, a bit unnecessary, no?
    Subjective experiance is important, afterall we don't tell someone who likes ice cream more than steak they are actually wrong but if they claimed they liked steak more than ice cream because of it's coolness, creamy texture and sweetness we'd think them seriously mental.
    But I don't think that's what's happens in these types of threads. People are comparing like-for-like things, not totally different ones. So, to use one of your examples, it's like comparing two ice creams. I could like one type, someone else another. Doesn't mean either of our ice creams are better, just means we have different tastes.

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    Old 14-07-2008, 07:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    well if you hav eplayed both and prefer PES then fair enough. my point is you cant say X game is better the Y if you never played game Y before But still is it hard to say WHY u like PES better?


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    I can't wait for this , every year it gets better and better much better than pro evo
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    i will always be playing pro evo, as me and friends prefer to play football than pinball
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    Old 14-07-2008, 04:19 PM   #24 (permalink)
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    Originally Posted by wzix View Post
    i will always be playing pro evo, as me and friends prefer to play football than pinball
    lol, i think u got them the wrong way round...

    pro evo is arcady therformore chance of looking like pinball.

    u may aswell have 22 dots going up and down a screen like the old snes games

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    Old 14-07-2008, 04:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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    there is no comparison between fifa and pro evo, fifa wins hands down but there will always be the loyal following to pro evo for some strange reason.....
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    Old 14-07-2008, 05:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    becuase its cool to say u like pro evo. "look at me, this is the lads football game with the beers and stuff at uni" "we go against tradition and buy pro evo to look different"

    Pretty emo come to think of it

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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    Originally Posted by Merlin4458 View Post
    becuase its cool to say u like pro evo. "look at me, this is the lads football game with the beers and stuff at uni" "we go against tradition and buy pro evo to look different"

    Pretty emo come to think of it

    Hmm, so your not a fanboy then

    Piont is in the previous years pro evo was fun and playable where as fifa was slow and dull. It's only in the last year it's been any good, just when pro evo had a bad year. Come october we should get 2 good games and the competition should make it better for both games in the long run.
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    Old 14-07-2008, 06:48 PM   #28 (permalink)
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    You mean they're both going to be cheap and fun?

    Originally Posted by JK Ferret
    A bit beyond? So, you only meant to write 8 paragraphs, but accidentally ended up writing an encyclopedia-length opinion?
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    Old 14-07-2008, 06:54 PM   #29 (permalink)
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    Originally Posted by Merlin4458 View Post
    becuase its cool to say u like pro evo. "look at me, this is the lads football game with the beers and stuff at uni" "we go against tradition and buy pro evo to look different"

    Pretty emo come to think of it
    oh dear

    not really I've played Pro Evo since the ISS days in mid 90's, not as part of some 'cult' lol. nothing beats it on a 1v1 against another good player
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    Originally Posted by bigblue View Post
    Would be nice if people said "I like FIFA better because..." or something like that. But no, it's usually just a case of if you like the 'other' game, youre wrong.
    I've yet to see anyone give a reason why they prefer Pro Evo beyond outdated claims that it is less arcadey than FIFA.

    I do wonder if Wzix has actually played FIFA or UEFA Euro 08. Yes Pro Evo used to be the superior game and people who played FIFA were simpletons wanting licenses and easy goals over gameplay and realism but all that changed with Pro Evo 2008 and FIFA 08.

    Also what the **** is this **** about emo?

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    Originally Posted by wzix View Post
    oh dear

    not really I've played Pro Evo since the ISS days in mid 90's, not as part of some 'cult' lol. nothing beats it on a 1v1 against another good player
    have you played FIFA 08 yet? What did you make of Pro Evo 2008, don't you think it's a massive let down, something that should have been obvious the moment you saw the tacktastic Myspace and Zoo (or was it Nuts??) adverts?

    If Konami don't have to pay for the licenses they should at least put the time and money into the actual gameplay and they certainly don't need such horrific adverts to make more money of their customers.

    "The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save – the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour – your capital. The less you are, the less you express your own life, the more you have, the greater is your alienated life, the greater is the store of your estranged being." Karl Marx
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    Old 14-07-2008, 08:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
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    Re: Fifa 09 News!

    Originally Posted by wzix View Post
    i will always be playing pro evo, as me and friends prefer to play football than pinball
    have u even played fifa/euro 08? dont bash a game without trying it


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