• HEXUS
  • HEXUS.tv
  • channel
  • gaming
  • lifestyle
  • trust
  • community
  • ESReality
  • HEXUS.community discussion forums

    Welcome to the HEXUS.community discussion forums forums.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

    Go Back   HEXUS.community discussion forums > HEXUS.help - buying advice & technical queries > HEXUS.hardware

    HEXUS.hardware Discuss everything hardware. Need to chat tech stuff or want to tell us about the stuff in your rig? Here’s your best bet! Add RSS Feed

    Reply
     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
    Old 26-02-2007, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Feb 2007
    Posts: 21
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Question S939 Upgrade advice needed

    My current 3500+ is showing its age badly in vista, even with the 2gb of RAM installed, so have decided to go dual core.
    However, I am on a budget and so want to take as smooth a path as possible, i.e stick with the socket 939 board (at least for now).
    As i see it, my choices are as follows:

    1: X2 3800+ (with view to overclocking?)
    2: X2 4600+ (probably not much o'cing potential)
    3: Opteron dual (clueless about the performance abilities of these)

    Obviously a primary concern is comparative performance in Vista and compatibility with my existing mobo/ram setup

    Any suggestions/advice would be very gratefully received

    MrBenns

    Gigabyte 965p-S3 Rev 3.3
    E6300 @ 2.8ghx (400 x 7) Stock Voltages
    Arctic Freezer Pro 7
    2gb Geil Ultra Low Latency
    ATI X800 PCI-Ex
    Vista Home Premium 32bit
    4 x SATA Drives
    mrbenns is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 02:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
    Contented!
     
    menthel's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2004
    Location: Rainey Park...
    Posts: 4,291
    Thanks: 106
    Thanked 34 Times in 30 Posts
    menthel's system
    In what was is your current cpu suffering in vista? I installed vista with a 3200+ and it seemed nice and speedy to me.

    menthel is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 02:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
    Has developed fish hoof.
     
    Clunk's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2006
    Location: Clunk.org.uk
    Posts: 10,077
    Thanks: 247
    Thanked 427 Times in 291 Posts
    If the rest of your stuff is up to overclocking, then go for the cheapest. The 4600 looks to be around 170 and I think that is silly money to spend on a 939 cpu.

    If it were me, I would save a bit more and go the whole hog.

    Clunk is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 02:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Feb 2007
    Posts: 21
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    well, the decision is *sorta* being forced on me, I am building a cheapo system for a friend and am gonna put the 3500 into that and buy myself an X2

    Gigabyte 965p-S3 Rev 3.3
    E6300 @ 2.8ghx (400 x 7) Stock Voltages
    Arctic Freezer Pro 7
    2gb Geil Ultra Low Latency
    ATI X800 PCI-Ex
    Vista Home Premium 32bit
    4 x SATA Drives
    mrbenns is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 02:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    Join Date: Sep 2006
    Location: Leeds
    Posts: 2,104
    Thanks: 32
    Thanked 83 Times in 72 Posts
    s_kinton's system
    I had a similar predicament at christmas and decided to stick with my s939 and ended up buying a 4200x2 for about £120.

    Scan have them listed for £103, but they are out of stock. Ive got my 4200 running at 3Ghz with very little extra volts, with a max temp for about 45c.

    I would recommend getting the 4200 if you can.
    s_kinton is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 03:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    kalniel's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2005
    Posts: 8,841
    Thanks: 85
    Thanked 213 Times in 186 Posts
    kalniel's system
    The X2 3800 is a fab chip

    It's all the power you need right now unless you have an 8800 card.
    kalniel is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 03:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Feb 2007
    Posts: 21
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    what kind of overclocking potential is there in the 3800?
    Anyone know of a guide to the AN8 bios overclocking options, as Uguru does not seem to be working in Vista (runs but doesn't show any readings from the board)

    Gigabyte 965p-S3 Rev 3.3
    E6300 @ 2.8ghx (400 x 7) Stock Voltages
    Arctic Freezer Pro 7
    2gb Geil Ultra Low Latency
    ATI X800 PCI-Ex
    Vista Home Premium 32bit
    4 x SATA Drives
    mrbenns is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 03:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
    Señor [H3XU5] Member
     
    MadduckUK's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2006
    Location: St. Annes, Blackpool
    Posts: 9,508
    Thanks: 144
    Thanked 359 Times in 252 Posts
    MadduckUK's system
    im not the best example but my x2 3800 is doing 2.35 at the moment, worst overclocking motherboard ever (A8V-VM) and stock cooler.

    im sure it could go WAY higher

    MadduckUK is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 03:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    kalniel's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2005
    Posts: 8,841
    Thanks: 85
    Thanked 213 Times in 186 Posts
    kalniel's system
    Getting to 2.4ghz is considered routine, many have gone to 2.5+
    kalniel is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 04:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
    Registered User
     
    Join Date: Sep 2006
    Posts: 10
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    in the same position here with a 3700 sandiego
    what about an asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA

    with an intel 6300 or 4300 and use existing ram and graphics,the only drawback i can see is the pcie graphics is limited to 4 lanes ,so top end graphics would be limited

    dave
    dalex is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 04:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Feb 2007
    Posts: 21
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    i actually thought about that (Asrock) after seeing it mentioned in a forum (possibly this one ) but best pricing i can find is a little above my price range atm (and this is kinda a rushed thing so can't hold off)

    Gigabyte 965p-S3 Rev 3.3
    E6300 @ 2.8ghx (400 x 7) Stock Voltages
    Arctic Freezer Pro 7
    2gb Geil Ultra Low Latency
    ATI X800 PCI-Ex
    Vista Home Premium 32bit
    4 x SATA Drives
    mrbenns is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 04:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Feb 2007
    Posts: 21
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    hmm, doing a bit of pricing there and it would seem I can grab that Asrock board and a 6600 for about 170. That might be the deal to go for?

    Would also give me a route towards DDR2 etc

    Only problem is, I bought an OEM version of vista, anyone have any experience of re-activation after such a major hardware change?

    Gigabyte 965p-S3 Rev 3.3
    E6300 @ 2.8ghx (400 x 7) Stock Voltages
    Arctic Freezer Pro 7
    2gb Geil Ultra Low Latency
    ATI X800 PCI-Ex
    Vista Home Premium 32bit
    4 x SATA Drives
    mrbenns is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 04:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    kalniel's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2005
    Posts: 8,841
    Thanks: 85
    Thanked 213 Times in 186 Posts
    kalniel's system
    The ASRock 945G Conroe DVI would be a better board for Core 2 Duo - it's a full 16x PCIe slot.
    kalniel is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 04:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Feb 2007
    Posts: 21
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    yeah, but that 1 would mean having to buy new RAM as well

    Gigabyte 965p-S3 Rev 3.3
    E6300 @ 2.8ghx (400 x 7) Stock Voltages
    Arctic Freezer Pro 7
    2gb Geil Ultra Low Latency
    ATI X800 PCI-Ex
    Vista Home Premium 32bit
    4 x SATA Drives
    mrbenns is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 04:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Feb 2007
    Posts: 21
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    damn, another potential problem with the Asrock board. It has only 2 SATA slots, and I have 4 SATA drives

    Gigabyte 965p-S3 Rev 3.3
    E6300 @ 2.8ghx (400 x 7) Stock Voltages
    Arctic Freezer Pro 7
    2gb Geil Ultra Low Latency
    ATI X800 PCI-Ex
    Vista Home Premium 32bit
    4 x SATA Drives
    mrbenns is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 26-02-2007, 08:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    kalniel's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2005
    Posts: 8,841
    Thanks: 85
    Thanked 213 Times in 186 Posts
    kalniel's system
    Originally Posted by mrbenns View Post
    yeah, but that 1 would mean having to buy new RAM as well
    You'll probably make money on changing - DDR2 is a lot cheaper than DDR now.
    kalniel is offline   Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Breadcrumb
    Go Back   HEXUS.community discussion forums > HEXUS.help - buying advice & technical queries > HEXUS.hardware


    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     
    Thread Tools

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are On
    Pingbacks are On
    Refbacks are On
    Forum Jump

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Buying advice needed: AMD 64 4000+ san diego or X2 3800+? Holtzclaw HEXUS.hardware 19 11-10-2005 12:07 AM
    Phone Upgrade Advice Craig Mobile phones and accessories 5 14-10-2004 10:30 PM
    Upgrade Advice p1az HEXUS.hardware 3 28-09-2004 07:14 AM
    Upgrade advice please RedPutty HEXUS.hardware 14 11-12-2003 10:27 AM
    need advice about gfx upgrade...yes another one alpha-prime HEXUS.hardware 0 04-12-2003 02:37 PM



    All times are GMT. The time now is 12:54 PM.

    Any representations/statements made on the HEXUS.community discussion forums are the representations/statements of the author i.e. the person/organisation making them. If any such representations/statements are disputed they are a matter between the parties concerned. HEXUS Limited accepts no responsibility for any misrepresentations, inaccurate or false statements made by any person/organisation other than HEXUS Limited employees.
    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
    Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
    © Copyright 2008 HEXUS® Limited. All rights reserved. Unauthorised reproduction strictly prohibited.