• HEXUS
  • HEXUS.tv
  • channel
  • gaming
  • lifestyle
  • trust
  • community
  • ESReality
  • HEXUS.community discussion forums

    Welcome to the HEXUS.community discussion forums forums.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

    Go Back   HEXUS.community discussion forums > HEXUS.help - buying advice & technical queries > HEXUS.hardware

    HEXUS.hardware Discuss everything hardware. Need to chat tech stuff or want to tell us about the stuff in your rig? Here’s your best bet! Add RSS Feed

    Closed Thread
     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
    Old 17-04-2007, 10:38 PM   #209 (permalink)
    Has developed fish hoof.
     
    Clunk's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2006
    Location: Clunk.org.uk
    Posts: 10,102
    Thanks: 251
    Thanked 438 Times in 298 Posts
    Right, this makes more sense now.

    Keep the same settings and change the ram voltage to 2.0v and try again.

    Did you also disable legacy usb in the bios?

    Also change the "write to precharge delay" to 15 (motherboard default should be 10) this is located in the memory subtimings.

    Clunk is offline  
    Old 18-04-2007, 12:05 PM   #210 (permalink)
    Tools are the subtlest of traps
     
    redsky009's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Oct 2006
    Location: London
    Posts: 621
    Thanks: 4
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    redsky009's system
    E6600 + Asus p5B deluxe wifi/ap + corsair twinX2048 800 c4 + Arctic cooler 7 pro

    I made a moderate overclock to 2.7 back when I first got the PC and it has been running fine on that since then... after seeing this thread I decided to push it up a little

    Got it to 3.6 (9 x 400 @ 1.4v RAM at 2.1v) but it wasn't very stable so I throttled back to 3.3 (9 x 366 @ 1.365v) and ran 1x Orthos on blend and and 1 on CPU stress for 14 hours - temps were:

    idle:42 oC
    full load: 60-63oC

    The idle seems a bit high don't ya think?

    Anyway, changed all voltages back to Auto (except the RAM) at 3.294 Ghz and have it running 2 x Orthos while I am at work..
    will see how it fares temp wise, but idle was still around 40oC. Does that look like bad application of thermal paste to you or normal for a 33% overclock?

    Also, Speedfan was recording an AUX temp of around 80-100oC most of the time - not sure what this is measuring, is this likely to be the the Northbridge heatpipe not seated properly?

    Ta for the guide, very helpful

    redsky009 is offline  
    Old 18-04-2007, 12:28 PM   #211 (permalink)
    Hardcore Pride
     
    Join Date: Jul 2003
    Location: Hertfordshire, Hemel, HHXC
    Posts: 769
    Thanks: 2
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Originally Posted by Clunk View Post
    Right, this makes more sense now.

    Keep the same settings and change the ram voltage to 2.0v and try again.

    Did you also disable legacy usb in the bios?

    Also change the "write to precharge delay" to 15 (motherboard default should be 10) this is located in the memory subtimings.
    Ok so it ran all night with the ram settings at 5-5-5-15 1.95v. I cant remember if I set the Write to Precharge Delay to 15 or not I will have to double check, as well as disabling the legacy usb support.

    Ill run it again tonight and see how it pans out. Hopefully find out whats going on. Will try out what you said Clunk, cheers.
    Areku is offline  
    Old 18-04-2007, 12:34 PM   #212 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    chuckskull's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Location: Lonetrek
    Posts: 5,021
    Thanks: 148
    Thanked 69 Times in 55 Posts
    chuckskull's system
    Originally Posted by redsky009 View Post
    The idle seems a bit high don't ya think?

    Anyway, changed all voltages back to Auto (except the RAM) at 3.294 Ghz and have it running 2 x Orthos while I am at work..
    will see how it fares temp wise, but idle was still around 40oC. Does that look like bad application of thermal paste to you or normal for a 33% overclock?

    Also, Speedfan was recording an AUX temp of around 80-100oC most of the time - not sure what this is measuring, is this likely to be the the Northbridge heatpipe not seated properly?

    Ta for the guide, very helpful
    The idle temp will be quite high because the AC7 will slow it's fan down. mine idles just over 40 at 3.3. Unless the fan is going fast dont worry. it's fine.

    Theres 2 possibilities for the AUX temp one being speedfan reading wrong (very common, my last CPU was constantly at -150c on air according to it) If the temp is correct and you're not crashing it's the PWM temp (They're usually rated to 110c, though you wouldn't want it that high 24/7).

    Install ASUS probe(should be on the mobo CD) that should give you some better reading for the motherboard temps.

    chuckskull is offline  
    Old 18-04-2007, 01:07 PM   #213 (permalink)
    Tools are the subtlest of traps
     
    redsky009's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Oct 2006
    Location: London
    Posts: 621
    Thanks: 4
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    redsky009's system
    Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    The idle temp will be quite high because the AC7 will slow it's fan down. mine idles just over 40 at 3.3. Unless the fan is going fast dont worry. it's fine.

    Theres 2 possibilities for the AUX temp one being speedfan reading wrong (very common, my last CPU was constantly at -150c on air according to it) If the temp is correct and you're not crashing it's the PWM temp (They're usually rated to 110c, though you wouldn't want it that high 24/7).

    Install ASUS probe(should be on the mobo CD) that should give you some better reading for the motherboard temps.
    Ah thanks Chuckskull, good idea. Will see on the Asus site if they have Probe for vista yet.

    Hopefully all will be well when I get back home tonight, then i can check if my SupCom Mark has improved

    redsky009 is offline  
    Old 19-04-2007, 08:01 AM   #214 (permalink)
    Hardcore Pride
     
    Join Date: Jul 2003
    Location: Hertfordshire, Hemel, HHXC
    Posts: 769
    Thanks: 2
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Ok so I had the machine running Memtest with the following:

    RAM settings - 5-5-5-15, write to precharge delay 15
    Volts - 2.0

    Ran fine over night. So im guessing now I should overclock the cpu with the current ram settings and then run memtest again and go from there.

    Nothing is ever simple is it
    Areku is offline  
    Old 19-04-2007, 09:27 AM   #215 (permalink)
    Has developed fish hoof.
     
    Clunk's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2006
    Location: Clunk.org.uk
    Posts: 10,102
    Thanks: 251
    Thanked 438 Times in 298 Posts
    Yep, go for it

    Clunk is offline  
    Old 19-04-2007, 08:48 PM   #216 (permalink)
    Has developed fish hoof.
     
    Clunk's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2006
    Location: Clunk.org.uk
    Posts: 10,102
    Thanks: 251
    Thanked 438 Times in 298 Posts
    Did it work?

    Clunk is offline  
    Old 20-04-2007, 07:22 AM   #217 (permalink)
    Hardcore Pride
     
    Join Date: Jul 2003
    Location: Hertfordshire, Hemel, HHXC
    Posts: 769
    Thanks: 2
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Well ran memtest with the cpu overclocked and the memory timings as said above. Was fine, no errors.

    So I decided to run Orthos last night with the same settings. It got to about 35mins again and then stopped, tried again, same thing this time pc restarted, tried a third time and it gave me a similar error to what I had last time.

    I was keeping an eye on the temps however and it seemed to go badly once it reached about 66c on Orthos speedfan and the other temp apps were reporting abour 50c.

    So im going to have a play tonight to see if I can get it running cooler to see if that solves the problem, or at least takes care of the temps.

    The fun ensues!
    Areku is offline  
    Old 20-04-2007, 07:24 PM   #218 (permalink)
    Registered User
     
    Join Date: Apr 2007
    Posts: 7
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    This is the most easiest guide I have read. A lot of other guides tend to put a lot of technical info in which isn't explained well, but this guide is very simple and straight to the point for a n00b to understand.

    I have successfully overclocked my E6400 to 2.6GHz with a 325MHz FSB, I first went with the guide and set it to 300MHz.

    At first I didn't get why what I set in the BIOS keep getting reset when I restarted the computer. I found the problem and I was pressing the wrong button when exiting the BIOS. I pressed ESC instead of F10, F10 saves changes whereas ESC discards changes
    C2Dan is offline  
    Old 21-04-2007, 11:55 AM   #219 (permalink)
    Hardcore Pride
     
    Join Date: Jul 2003
    Location: Hertfordshire, Hemel, HHXC
    Posts: 769
    Thanks: 2
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Ok so I have narrowed down the problem to cooling. I re-positioned my extra 80mm fan and made it blow directly onto the AC7 pro. This made the temps make its way to around 63c and no higher and Orthos ran for 50mins and then crashed.

    Im going to see if I can grab some Arctic Silver 5 as suggested earlier. I had a look at the cpu cooler and it seemed to be snug on the cpu.

    Does anyone have any other suggestions at which I can try?
    Areku is offline  
    Old 21-04-2007, 12:58 PM   #220 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    chuckskull's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Location: Lonetrek
    Posts: 5,021
    Thanks: 148
    Thanked 69 Times in 55 Posts
    chuckskull's system
    Sometimes CPU coolers will look fine and you'll never find anything wrong with the way their mounted, but just wont cool as well as they should. 'Course re-mounting will fix that.

    Only other thing that would cause temps to jump up would be setting the Vcore offset in the BIOS. It should be left at auto/disabled unless you have decet cooling(water).

    chuckskull is offline  
    Old 21-04-2007, 01:00 PM   #221 (permalink)
    Has developed fish hoof.
     
    Clunk's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2006
    Location: Clunk.org.uk
    Posts: 10,102
    Thanks: 251
    Thanked 438 Times in 298 Posts
    I wouldnt have thought 63c would be enought to make it unstable.

    Did you take the NB heatsink off and check if its contacting? Did you update to the latest bios?

    You need to do these things forst before going any further, or you are pissing in the wind

    Clunk is offline  
    Old 21-04-2007, 01:05 PM   #222 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    chuckskull's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Location: Lonetrek
    Posts: 5,021
    Thanks: 148
    Thanked 69 Times in 55 Posts
    chuckskull's system
    I'm pretty sure that 65c is the magic number, I've noticed mine will fail orthos the second it hits it. I played with some more powerful cooling and the cores were fine up to over 80c(couldn't get them hotter), but as soon as the CPU temp hit 65 it all went tits up.

    Not sure if it triggers the throttling or what though. Something definetly happens.

    chuckskull is offline  
    Old 21-04-2007, 01:10 PM   #223 (permalink)
    Has developed fish hoof.
     
    Clunk's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2006
    Location: Clunk.org.uk
    Posts: 10,102
    Thanks: 251
    Thanked 438 Times in 298 Posts
    Nah, Ive had a c2d with 1.8v and 94c over the weekend with orthos, probe was reporting 105c 1.9v and it ran for a few hours and then switched off, ran for another few and then switched off again.

    I think 75c is the point that throttling is supposed to start. I suppose, the cooler the better, but if the system has other problems then an overheating cpu isnt going to help.

    What he needs is phase change cooling.

    Clunk is offline  
    Old 21-04-2007, 01:21 PM   #224 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    chuckskull's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Location: Lonetrek
    Posts: 5,021
    Thanks: 148
    Thanked 69 Times in 55 Posts
    chuckskull's system
    Originally Posted by Clunk View Post
    What he needs is phase change cooling.
    Dont we all

    Is that 95c read from the main CPU temp or a core reading?

    If it isn't a function of the chip I wanna know why mine gives up at 65

    chuckskull is offline  
    Closed Thread

    Breadcrumb
    Go Back   HEXUS.community discussion forums > HEXUS.help - buying advice & technical queries > HEXUS.hardware


    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
     
    Thread Tools

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are On
    Pingbacks are On
    Refbacks are On
    Forum Jump

    Simi