C2D Overclocking Guide for Beginners

[Skeet]

Originally Posted by BULLZI

can u please let me know the current price of a room heat sink?

Couldn't you buy a small refrigerator or something, and keep your PC in that? or...maybe one of those small beer fridges, and duct cold air from it to your intake fans?

Sounds silly I know, but...what do you do...its similar to aircon

Not sure what the situation with moisture would be, but as you don't actually have any food etc in there, and there will be air circulating...shouldnt be a problem. Besides...it's quite a Dry heat in India, is it not...depending where you...Bangalore maybe?

[Agent]

Originally Posted by Skeet

Couldn't you buy a small refrigerator or something, and keep your PC in that? or...maybe one of those small beer fridges, and duct cold air from it to your intake fans?

Sounds silly I know, but...what do you do...its similar to aircon

Not sure what the situation with moisture would be, but as you don't actually have any food etc in there, and there will be air circulating...shouldnt be a problem. Besides...it's quite a Dry heat in India, is it not...depending where you...Bangalore maybe?

There is a little thing called condensation that will put a stop to that, fairly quickly

[Wyz]

Hi There,

I have read through the guide which has been very helpful.. thanks.

I am setting up a new rig with a P5K MB, E6600 CPU and Corsair CM2X1024-8500C5 DDR2

This Motherboard and RAM are supposed to be able to run at 1066MHz but the Highest DRAM Frequency I have been able to set and load WinXP is 889Mhz.

I have the RAM settings at the recommended 5-5-5-15 2T 2.2v

If I set the DRAM Frequency to 1066MHz it hangs before posting and when I power off and back on it says overclock failed.

I guess my question is. Should I be able to set it to this speed (1066MHz) and something is wrong or is there a better configuration for my setup regarding RAM timing. eg. 800Mhz but at 4-4-4-12.

Thankyou

Wyz.

[Gunwitch]

Can't seem to access the last page of this thread

[Clunk]

Originally Posted by Gunwitch

Can't seem to access the last page of this thread

Its because there were some posts deleted because of that rene thx troll, just a bug in the software I think.

[Clunk]

Originally Posted by Wyz

Hi There,

I have read through the guide which has been very helpful.. thanks.

I am setting up a new rig with a P5K MB, E6600 CPU and Corsair CM2X1024-8500C5 DDR2

This Motherboard and RAM are supposed to be able to run at 1066MHz but the Highest DRAM Frequency I have been able to set and load WinXP is 889Mhz.

I have the RAM settings at the recommended 5-5-5-15 2T 2.2v

If I set the DRAM Frequency to 1066MHz it hangs before posting and when I power off and back on it says overclock failed.

I guess my question is. Should I be able to set it to this speed (1066MHz) and something is wrong or is there a better configuration for my setup regarding RAM timing. eg. 800Mhz but at 4-4-4-12.

Thankyou

Wyz.

If you have read all the parts of the guide, please post pics of your bios settings

[Gunwitch]

Originally Posted by Clunk

Its because there were some posts deleted because of that rene thx troll, just a bug in the software I think.

Ah cheers matey, we had a troll?

[Skeet]

Originally Posted by Agent

There is a little thing called condensation that will put a stop to that, fairly quickly

Condensation, is moist WARM air, hitting a cool surface.

As his PC wil be inside a 30 odd degree area, you arent going to get condensation on the case.

If he ducted air from the fridge, it would be dry COOL air going into the PC.

Meh...worth a shot surely...dehumidifier anyone?

[Clunk]

Originally Posted by Skeet

Condensation, is moist WARM air, hitting a cool surface.

As his PC wil be inside a 30 odd degree area, you arent going to get condensation on the case.

If he ducted air from the fridge, it would be dry COOL air going into the PC.

Meh...worth a shot surely...dehumidifier anyone?

You will get condensation, it is fact.

Why do you think that the people who use sub zero cooling go to such great lengths to insulate their boards, CPUs and sockets? Condensation, thats why

[Skeet]

Originally Posted by Clunk

You will get condensation, it is fact.

Why do you think that the people who use sub zero cooling go to such great lengths to insulate their boards, CPUs and sockets? Condensation, thats why

So...in the winter, if I Have my PC in my kitchen, on the side...with the back door open, asssuming we have a more traditional British Winter, rather than the ones we have had of late, and its around 3 degrees in my kitchen...I will get condensation in my case?
Of course I wont, because the cold dense air coming in, may contain moisture, but...when it hits the heat of my PC it will evaporate/vapourise, not condense.

If you look at say, someone using liquid Nitrogen or even a Vapochil, the insualtion is there, to stop the Nitrogen boiling before you want it to, to keep the cold in.

Any moisture in the air, immediately close to the cold surface, will freeze on it but that is not condensation.

Condensation, is caused by moist WARM air (eg. what we breathe out) hitting a colder surface, which causes it to phase change from a gaseous or evaporated state, into a liquid, because water is a liquid at normal room temperatures etc...unlike Nitrogen, which is gaseous at normal temperatures.

Why is it, if I go into a large Comms room, its always chilled to about 7 degrees by aircon? So that condensation can build up on everything?

Not trying to teach you clever guys anything, but...point of fact, not only is it possble, but it has been done.

Stopped typing at "not trying to teach you" and went a Googling.

http://www.overclockers.com/articles975/index02.asp

Now, further interesting stuff, can be found here

http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-4272.php

Granted, these guys do have some issues, but...assuming you dont allow any normal room temperature air into the system, your onto a winner...I have my own idea...but never really thought too far, until just now when looking into it...and my idea all seems to be there in parts...

Particularily the use of a water cooling system, seline based, with coils, in a freezer...possibly even using a slush puppy machine....

[Skeet]

Further Googling, would suggest that, while salt water may have a lower freezing point, it would only be a few degrees below that of regular water so would be pointless.

Much better would be 1:1 mix of water and antifreeze, which would mean that the freezer can cool the solution to its maximum ability without freezing it.

However, it would also seem, that lowering the the freezing point, also means, certainly in the case of salt water, that it will hang onto it's heat for longer...so...I would propose that a conventional Fan assisted radiator be used upon exiting the PC, prior to it going into the chiller.

What sort of temps do Vapochill units get to by the way?

[Skeet]

Now...that is just scary, especially the second from last one!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIOyljLEcyk

[Clunk]

Try it and see

You need to start a thread about it, this is way off topic for this one.

[Clunk]

Originally Posted by Skeet

If you look at say, someone using liquid Nitrogen or even a Vapochil, the insualtion is there, to stop the Nitrogen boiling before you want it to, to keep the cold in.

I will say though, that that^^ sentence is incorrect. The Insulation that I'm talking about is to stop condensation, and is fitted round the CPU socket, the board is coated, and the socket covered in grease - to stop condensation getting in.

Theres a few things about it on xs, but it is down for a few mins.

[Agent]

Originally Posted by Skeet

Condensation, is moist WARM air, hitting a cool surface.

As his PC wil be inside a 30 odd degree area, you arent going to get condensation on the case.

If he ducted air from the fridge, it would be dry COOL air going into the PC.

Meh...worth a shot surely...dehumidifier anyone?

I know what condensation is, I was referring to you saying....

Originally Posted by Skeet

Couldn't you buy a small refrigerator or something, and keep your PC in that?

My point still stands

Even with ducting to the PC, warm air would still hit the cold inside the PC, causing the risk of condensation.

[Wyz]

Originally Posted by Clunk

If you have read all the parts of the guide, please post pics of your bios settings

Hi Clunk,

I will post the Bios pic tonight. But from what I have said should this ram and mb combo run at the 1066Mhz?