Core 2 Duo prices????

[KingLouie3]

Hi, can someone explain how suppliers price up the processors?? The following prices are from Scan's today only page.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6420, Socket 775, 2.13 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, Allendale Core, 4MB Cache, Retail £113.99 £133.94

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, Socket 775, 2.4 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, Conroe Core, 4MB Cache, Retail £147.00 £172.73

Intel Core 2 Duo E6700, Socket 775, 2.67 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 4MB Cache, Retail £257.00 £301.98

The difference between e6420 and e6600 is £38.79, now that to me is reasonable. However, the difference between e6600 and e6700 is £129.25!!!

Thanks!!!

[moogle]

yes it looks weird, a e6400 is £40 off a e6600, difference of 200 in the name, but a e6700 is miles off for a difference of 100. Its up to intel i guess, since scan can only sell at a reasonable price they bought it at.

[staffsMike]

I think the e6700 remains more stable when clocked up to 4ghz and beyond..might be wrong.

[markyp23]

By suppliers do you mean scan or intel? Scan really have very little say in the matter. Technically the E6700 is going to be more expensive because it's the top end model without being an "EXTREME", so it probably just is an extreme that's been rebadged. (Even though some are arguing that the E6300s are just rebadged X6800s with less cache )

[moogle]

yea i mean intel. i havent read much about the e6700. but its just around 200mhz off the e6600.

[markyp23]

It's all about dominating every aspect of the market. It makes the E6600 a much more appealling choice I suppose.

[moogle]

well the e6600 and e6400 were the best price/performance processors according to pcpro. I guess none of those e6700 got sold

[KingLouie3]

it would be interesting to see how many e6700s have been sold to date.

[markyp23]

It really would, is there any way to find out?

[father smurf]

ask intel verry nicely

[Lucio]

AFAIK they have to use better grade materials to manufacture the e6700 and thus it costs more to make.

Not to mention the e6420 is a new processor bought in as part of the new pricing structure, but I doubt Scan has updated the e6600 and e6700 prices until they get the next batch in at the cheaper prices.

[GSte]

The CPUs are made with the same materials. They produce a wafer that holds about 200 CPUs (I think it's about 200 for C2Ds anyway) then test them and bin (or rather grade) them accordingly. The higher quality ones become the higher clocked CPUs. Generally speaking, less of the higher quality ones are produced per wafer, so command a higher price. The extreme editions are the top quality ones, and are given the loony prices because they represent the cream of the crop, and because people will pay top dollar for the best as with anything else, TVs for example.

[Queelis]

Shouldn't the 6420 be with 1333FSB?

[moogle]

Originally Posted by Queelis

Shouldn't the 6420 be with 1333FSB?

nooooooo, thats the penryn cpu's and later on ones. Xeons use the 1333 fsb too. i thinkthe the e6x20 cpus have 4mb cache instead of 2mb.

[GSte]

That's right, although I'm not sure why as it has become apparent that the extra cache doesn't help much even in video encoding where it would normally shine

[kalniel]

The E6420 is 4mb cache version of allendale.
The E6450 would be the 1333mhz FSB version.

As for why? They're just the poorer end of the E6600s - turn the multiplier down and chips that might not have passed QA at full speed could pass fine. It's about getting the most out of the yeild.