• HEXUS
  • HEXUS.tv
  • channel
  • gaming
  • lifestyle
  • trust
  • community
  • ESReality
  • HEXUS.community discussion forums

    Welcome to the HEXUS.community discussion forums forums.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
    Go Back   HEXUS.community discussion forums > HEXUS.help - buying advice & technical queries > HEXUS.hardware

    HEXUS.hardware Discuss everything hardware. Need to chat tech stuff or want to tell us about the stuff in your rig? Here’s your best bet! Add RSS Feed

    Reply
     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
    Old 22-08-2005, 12:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Posts: 48
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Can Anyone Identify This Amd Cpu?

    CAN ANYONE IDENTIFY THIS AMD CPU OR TELL ME HOW TO FIND OUT? WASTED 2 HOURS TRAWLING AMD.COM SITE.

    AHN2800BIX2AY
    AHN2800BIX2AX

    BOUGHT FROM EBAY, SELLER SAYS IT HAS A "DUBLIN" CORE IT'S A 2800+ MOBILE SKT 754 SEMPRON DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS O/C'S WELL? THE MOBO I BOUGHT 4 IT IS AN MSI K8TFIS2R WHICH SAYS IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE "DO" VERSION BUT NOT THE "E3" ANYONE HAVE A CLUE? THANKS, RICH
    rich_225 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 22-08-2005, 01:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
    Member
     
    Join Date: Aug 2005
    Location: Birmingham
    Posts: 97
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Athlon XP-M "Dublin" (K8-based, Socket 754)
    Model Number: Athlon XP-M 2800+
    Frequency: 1600 MHz
    L2 Cache: 128 KB
    HyperTransport: 800 MHz
    Multiplier: 8x
    Voltage: 1.40
    Part Number(s): AHN2800BIX2AY AHN2800BIX2AX

    from here (google is your friend )
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors
    pion is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 22-08-2005, 01:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
    hi
     
    unreal's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2005
    Location: East London & Birmingham City Uni
    Posts: 3,595
    Thanks: 14
    Thanked 36 Times in 29 Posts
    unreal's system
    View unreal's Twitter Profile
    The Caps Lock key is also you're friend... lol just had to say it



    Last edited by unreal; 22-08-2005 at 01:19 AM..
    unreal is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 22-08-2005, 03:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    Join Date: May 2004
    Location: Rochester, NY
    Posts: 1,029
    Thanks: 4
    Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
    oralpain's system
    That wikipedia article is incorrect. The chip is a (mobile) sempron, not an XP-M.

    It could very possibly OC quite well, but not on that motherboard.
    oralpain is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 22-08-2005, 10:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    Join Date: Jun 2005
    Location: London
    Posts: 609
    Thanks: 3
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    They have it listed in the Mobile Processors section though....

    ShMeE

    Current: Shuttle SX48P2, C2Q Q6600, Corsair 4GB, 3x 1.5TB, XFX 9800GT 512MB, XFX 7800GTX 256MB, Samsung LE40M87 40" @ 1920x1080, + 2x SM242MP 24" @ 1920x1200, 5760x1200 = AWESOME!

    Laptops: Vaio Z (13.3"), Vaio TZ (11.1"), Vaio P (8")
    Hexus Trust ¦ Shmee150.co.uk ¦ eBay Store ¦ eBay My World
    Shmee150 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 22-08-2005, 04:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
    likes the cut of your jib
     
    Rave's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2003
    Location: SE London
    Posts: 8,801
    Thanks: 210
    Thanked 176 Times in 114 Posts
    More importantly, it's a K8 Sempron based on a 130nm core. So, as far as I can tell, the motherboard he has bought should work. I don't think those boards OC all that well though as oralpain says.

    When you install the processor and heatsink, check that the HS is making good contact with the core; AFAIK mobile semprons don't have a heatspreader and so you can sometimes get poor contact between HS and CPU core. If you get no contact you can fry the chip as soon as you turn it on!.

    www.no2id.net
    www.saynoto0870.com
    www.housepricecrash.co.uk
    Now these points of data make a beautiful line, and we're out of beta we're releasing on time....
    Rave is online now   Reply With Quote
    Old 22-08-2005, 05:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    Join Date: May 2004
    Location: Rochester, NY
    Posts: 1,029
    Thanks: 4
    Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
    oralpain's system
    Nearly all A64 motherbaords will shut off the instant the on die temps hit 94C. This takes about a quarter second with no heatsink contact (ive done it). The chip will normally be fine though (mine survived 6 tries before I finanly realized what the hell I was doing and stoped).
    oralpain is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 22-08-2005, 10:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Posts: 48
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    thanks for the valuable + greatly appreciated advice. the web review i read about the board said it was a good overclocker, unlike the asus one i nearly bought that said you couldn't lock the agp/pci clock. i know i should make a new post but anyone know how to o/c these? old days was just fsb x cpu multiplier. how does the hyper transport come into the equasion? is the cpu multiplyer locked on this odd chip? i have ddr400 (pc3200) ram how does this tally with hyper transport? is it quad pumped? i.e. pc3200 = 800 HEELP!!

    P.S.
    how do u check that the hs has good contact with cpu? apart from excessive temp! any advice on how best to attach it? & will it kill the mobo if the chip is incompatible?

    Last edited by rich_225; 22-08-2005 at 10:13 PM..
    rich_225 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 22-08-2005, 11:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
    Member
     
    Join Date: Aug 2005
    Posts: 142
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    follow the instructions and you'll be fine. Inspect carefully before turning it on. It's quite hard to mess up a normal HSF installation on a S754/939 chip....
    plesuvius is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 23-08-2005, 01:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
    likes the cut of your jib
     
    Rave's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2003
    Location: SE London
    Posts: 8,801
    Thanks: 210
    Thanked 176 Times in 114 Posts
    This is not a 'normal' installation, since his chip won't have a heatspreader.

    www.no2id.net
    www.saynoto0870.com
    www.housepricecrash.co.uk
    Now these points of data make a beautiful line, and we're out of beta we're releasing on time....
    Rave is online now   Reply With Quote
    Old 23-08-2005, 03:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
    Senior Member
     
    Join Date: May 2004
    Location: Rochester, NY
    Posts: 1,029
    Thanks: 4
    Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
    oralpain's system
    Indeed. Following normal installation procedure with any heatsink that uses the existing/stock mounting bracket, will result in a computer that will not boot.
    oralpain is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 23-08-2005, 07:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Posts: 48
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    the arctic cooling hs/fan says it comes with a spreader. can i use this? will it help my cause?
    rich_225 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 23-08-2005, 11:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
    Registered User
     
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Posts: 11
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    This is what an AMD CPU looks like without a heatspreader. That metal piece in the middle is the CPU, and if you apply the Heatsink with uneven force, you will chip that CPU and it will fry as soon as you hit the switch, if it does anything at all.

    Apply the heatsink slowly with even force straight down as much as possible, and do not under any circumstance twist the heatsink when it is in contact with the CPU. You will chip it if you twist it and it will be toast.

    This is a picture of an AMD CPU with a "heatspreader" on it. You can see all the stuff is completely covered and sealed in by a metal spreader that contacts the CPU underneath and spreads the heat out over a larger surface. They tend not to be quite as efficient at cooling as a directly applied heatsink, but the tradeoff in safety is well worth it.

    The only additional safety measure that exists was called a CPU Shim, and I am not aware of any that are made for the mobile/Semprons, unless they have the same config as an XP. I wouldn't risk it, because if it's too tall, your HSF won't contact the CPU and it will get way too hot way too fast.

    Here is what a shim looks like, depending. I had one that was much more open than either of those though.
    Beer Moon is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 24-08-2005, 12:14 AM   #14 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Posts: 48
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    hmm... i'm scared now! oh well, when chip arrives suppose i'll just have to go for it. i'll let you know what happens!
    rich_225 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 24-08-2005, 01:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
    Registered+
     
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Posts: 48
    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    just got hs/fan. it doesn't have a spreader it has a retension module(???) that must be bolted to mobo first.. er.. guess this doesn't help heat spready thing.. still awaiting arrival of chip, hopefully end of week/begining of next.
    rich_225 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 24-08-2005, 01:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
    likes the cut of your jib
     
    Rave's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2003
    Location: SE London
    Posts: 8,801
    Thanks: 210
    Thanked 176 Times in 114 Posts
    Just do a test fit. Install the processor, put a blob of thermal goop on and then carefully install the heatsink. Then remove it and check that the core has made full contact with the base of the heatsink, there should be a core shaped bit of very thin goop with a thicker bit round the edge where it's been squeezed out. If it works, clean the core and HS, apply fresh goop and reinstall. If it doesn't work you'll have to modify the mounting somehow to get the HS to sit lower.

    www.no2id.net
    www.saynoto0870.com
    www.housepricecrash.co.uk
    Now these points of data make a beautiful line, and we're out of beta we're releasing on time....
    Rave is online now   Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Breadcrumb
    Go Back   HEXUS.community discussion forums > HEXUS.help - buying advice & technical queries > HEXUS.hardware


    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     
    Thread Tools

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are On
    Pingbacks are On
    Refbacks are On


    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    AMD mobile cpu - windows update help doctor_prox HEXUS.hardware 0 12-05-2004 12:23 PM
    Do you get an 'XP rating' applied when you o/c? Austin HEXUS.hardware 56 11-12-2003 02:10 PM



    All times are GMT. The time now is 12:08 PM.

    Any representations/statements made on the HEXUS.community discussion forums are the representations/statements of the author i.e. the person/organisation making them. If any such representations/statements are disputed they are a matter between the parties concerned.
    HEXUS Limited accepts no responsibility for any misrepresentations, inaccurate or false statements made by any person/organisation other than HEXUS Limited employees.
    For more information please read HEXUS Limited's terms, conditions and privacy policy.

    Hosted Exchange | Virtual Dedicated Server

    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
    Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
    Copyright © 2010 HEXUS® Limited. All rights reserved. Unauthorised reproduction strictly prohibited.