Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 24

Thread: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    20,935
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    593 times in 294 posts

    News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    HD 7990, HD 7870, HD 7850, HD 7770 and HD 7750 all scheduled to land in the first half of 2012.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    10,209
    Thanks
    597
    Thanked
    277 times in 193 posts

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    So according to that my 6870 would be replaced with a 7870 which works fine for me, I'm not due an upgrade until the 8870 hits eitherway

  3. #3
    Oh Crumbs.... Biscuit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    N. Yorkshire
    Posts
    8,931
    Thanks
    976
    Thanked
    668 times in 556 posts
    • Biscuit's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 3570 (Corsair H100 with Akasa Piranha fans)
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Crucial DDR3 1866MHz
      • Storage:
      • 240GB Crucial M4, 480GB Crucial M500, 2TB Seagate SSHD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 2 x MSI GTX660 Ti Power Edition
      • PSU:
      • Antec Truepower 750W
      • Case:
      • Corsair 650D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2913WM & Philips E-line 234EL2SB
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity 80/20

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    i thought that the models below 79xx would be using an older VLIW based instruction processor. Good if it doesnt mind!

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    286
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    8 times in 8 posts

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    They have to be kidding with that pricing structure ... 7870 priced at £250, yet there own chart puts it below the outgoing £200 6950.
    You can even pick up a 6970 for £250!

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Pershore
    Posts
    1,383
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    32 times in 29 posts

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    I think we're all a bit disappointed with the new price structure...but things are getting more expensive all around

  6. #6
    Registered+
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    15
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    Hmmm, I have two old 4850s in crossfilre which I am looking to replace. I recall that a 5850 was approximately equivalent to two 4850s in crossfire and that a 6870 was more or less equivalent to the 5850 etc etc but I am having problems translating this on to the GCN architecture.

    Does anyone have an ideas as to how the number of GNC "processors" compares with the old VLIW shader processors? Are they doing he same job or more or less?

  7. #7
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    10 times in 10 posts
    • tonpal's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M3A78-T
      • CPU:
      • AMD Athlon II x2 240
      • Memory:
      • Corsair DDR2 800MHz
      • Storage:
      • 64GB Crucial C300, 250GB Maxtor and 160GB WD Caviar Blue
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor HD3870
      • PSU:
      • Enermax Pro82+ 385W
      • Case:
      • Hiper Osiris
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 64 bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell E172FP and Dell U2312HM
      • Internet:
      • Eclipse ADSL2+

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by keithwalton View Post
    They have to be kidding with that pricing structure ... 7870 priced at £250, yet there own chart puts it below the outgoing £200 6950.
    You can even pick up a 6970 for £250!
    AMD are trying to reap the benefits of being first to market. I would expect that the pricing will become more sensible when Nvidia bring out their Kepler GPUs.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    212
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    8 times in 4 posts
    • Jedibeeftrix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte 890FX UD5
      • CPU:
      • X6 1090T @ 3.6GHz
      • Memory:
      • 4x 2GB DDR3 1600
      • Storage:
      • 128GB (SSD) 2TB (7200rpm) 2TB (5900rpm)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • MSI Lightning 7970
      • PSU:
      • Silverstone 750W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone FT02
      • Operating System:
      • Win7 64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 3x Dell 2405FPW

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    there have been rumours that the midrange Pitcairn would be VLIW4, and even that the low-end would be VLIW5................?

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    423
    Thanks
    63
    Thanked
    18 times in 17 posts
    • GaryRW's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte P35C DS3R
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ 3ghz
      • Memory:
      • DDR2 4gb
      • Storage:
      • Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 8800GT
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX520w
      • Case:
      • Antec P182
      • Operating System:
      • Win 7
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung 2032BW

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by tonpal View Post
    AMD are trying to reap the benefits of being first to market. I would expect that the pricing will become more sensible when Nvidia bring out their Kepler GPUs.
    Exactly. The pricing of the 7950 against the 580 suggests that AMD are wanting to keep the financial benefits of a smaller process for as long as they can. That might not be long though if Nvidia decide to undercut them in the next couple of months. It might be a big undercut from the Green Team to make a point and get lots of sales, or just enough to inch them ahead. While as a consumer I like it when the efficiencies from a process shrink result in nice big day 1 reductions in price or increases in bang for buck, I am always surprised when it does happen.

    And in any event, don't forget these are Hexus's guestimates not official SRP's from AMD (I think!)

  10. #10
    Senior Member Hicks12's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Plymouth-SouthWest
    Posts
    6,431
    Thanks
    1,058
    Thanked
    301 times in 266 posts
    • Hicks12's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z68-V
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 2500k@4ghz, cooled by EK Supreme HF
      • Memory:
      • 8GB Kingston hyperX ddr3 PC3-12800 1600mhz
      • Storage:
      • 64GB M4/128GB M4 / WD 640GB AAKS / 1TB Samsung F3
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Palit GTX460 @ 900Mhz Core
      • PSU:
      • 675W ThermalTake ThoughPower XT
      • Case:
      • Lian Li PC-A70 with modded top for 360mm rad
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Professional 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2311H IPS
      • Internet:
      • 10mb/s cable from virgin media

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    its an expensive jump in process thats why its so much more expensive, pricing will certainly drop but its a combination of AMD wanting to reap the rewards and it generally being a bit more expensive, R&D wasnt cheap!. AMD deserve reaping the profits at the minute, they beat Nvidia to the market and their gpus are performing brilliantly and onpar price vs performance on previous gen so if you cant wait you arent in a too bad position thankfully .

    It will drop as soon as kepler is released .
    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Trust me, go into any local club and shout "I've got dual Nehalem Xeons" and all of the girls will practically collapse on the spot at the thought of your e-penis

  11. #11
    Headless Chicken Terbinator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    7,195
    Thanks
    1,065
    Thanked
    662 times in 541 posts
    • Terbinator's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock H61M
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon 1230-V3
      • Memory:
      • Geil Evo Corsa 2133/8GB
      • Storage:
      • M4 128GB, 2TB WD Red
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX Titan
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX760i
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster 130
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8.1 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell Ultrasharp U2711H
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media 60Mb.

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    So is there going to be a sizeable gulf between the 79xx and 78xx given there is no 6950 equivalent?
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
    CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
    TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    646
    Thanks
    20
    Thanked
    36 times in 28 posts

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by keithwalton View Post
    They have to be kidding with that pricing structure ... 7870 priced at £250, yet there own chart puts it below the outgoing £200 6950.
    You can even pick up a 6970 for £250!
    I'm not sure that chart makes any sense in a performance perspective. For example the 7950 is clearly faster than the 6970 yet comes well below it in the chart.

    The expectation is that the 7870 will match the 6970.

  13. #13
    Senior Member kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    24,336
    Thanks
    931
    Thanked
    2,183 times in 1,784 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte X58A UD3R rev 2
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7 950
      • Memory:
      • 12gb DDR3 2000
      • Graphics card(s):
      • AMD HD7870
      • PSU:
      • XFX Pro 650W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 7 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2311H
      • Internet:
      • O2 8mbps

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    The chart depicts market segment. Not price, not performance. It's related to both of those, but prices and performances can jump segments or move within segments. 7950 is clearly not slower or cheaper than a 6970, but it is below it in market segment - the 6970 was the previous top GPU from AMD, the 7950 is not designed to be the top GPU.

  14. #14
    "make it so" scaryjim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    10,778
    Thanks
    832
    Thanked
    1,398 times in 1,209 posts
    • scaryjim's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M4A785TD-M EVO
      • CPU:
      • Phenom II X4 905e
      • Memory:
      • 2x 4GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical VLP
      • Storage:
      • 750GB Seagate
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire 7750 Low Profile
      • PSU:
      • FSP 250W TFX
      • Case:
      • AOpen H360b
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Professional x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Iiyama ProLite E481S

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesPebody View Post
    Does anyone have an ideas as to how the number of GNC "processors" compares with the old VLIW shader processors? Are they doing he same job or more or less?
    Hmm, let's see: 6970 had slightly less VLIW4 shaders than 5870 had VLIW5, has a slightly higher base clock, and was 15% - 20% faster on launch (going by the hexus review).

    7970 vs 6970, it has 33% more shaders, again clocked slightly higher, and depending on game gives an improvement of anywhere from 15% to 70+% (again according to hexus' review ). The 70% was Crysis 2 though (special case wrt tesselation), and a 40%-50% improvement seems to be fairly standard except in some notable cases. On that basis, the shaders are probably slightly - but not massively, more efficient than the VLIW4 architecture, which itself was probably 15% faster shader for shader / clock for clock than VLIW5.

    I think what we'll see is the 7870 / 7850 performing very similarly to the 6970/6950, in that 1400 - 1600 shader region, and the 7770 / 7750 - if they are in the 800+ shader area - performing up around the 6870 / 6850 level (depending on clock speeds, obviously)

  15. #15
    Oh Crumbs.... Biscuit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    N. Yorkshire
    Posts
    8,931
    Thanks
    976
    Thanked
    668 times in 556 posts
    • Biscuit's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 3570 (Corsair H100 with Akasa Piranha fans)
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Crucial DDR3 1866MHz
      • Storage:
      • 240GB Crucial M4, 480GB Crucial M500, 2TB Seagate SSHD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 2 x MSI GTX660 Ti Power Edition
      • PSU:
      • Antec Truepower 750W
      • Case:
      • Corsair 650D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2913WM & Philips E-line 234EL2SB
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity 80/20

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    hopefully the lower end cards (7750 area) will be so efficient that they can be passive and even possibly low profile?

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    303
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    8 times in 8 posts

    Re: News - AMD roadmap hints at five upcoming Radeon HD 7000-series GPUs

    No mention of the rumoured Tahiti LE based cards. They looked very interesting but if the slides have the correct pricing they and any 1.5Gb HD7950 cards would have to fit into the £250-£350 bracket.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •