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That would make all the UK's networks "4G" compatible with the iPad...
Aren't some networks calling HSPA+ "4G"?
That would make all the UK's networks "4G" compatible with the iPad...
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Any fear the advertising standards people will take them to task about it in the UK? Will apple modify their TV spots etc appropriately over here?
I actually came in here to post just that. There's a bit of an argument going on in the states at the moment regarding advertising HSPA+ as 4G. I can't remember which operators are advertising HSPA+ as 4G, but Apple's advertising the new iPad as running on 4G on those networks. I guess the marketing material just followed from over here.
I'm not saying it's right, but at leat it's consistent. It seems Apple shares the view of certain US carriers, HSPA+ is 4G.
Of course if won't work, for the very same reasons you have two different versions of 4G enabled iPad 3 in the US...
Anyone remembers how screwed up 3G was when first introduced?
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So, out of interest, is the iPad real 4G?
Point is, given the price difference, it damn well should support both standards in the device.
However its not in the interest of Apple (shorter life cycle = more dosh) or the network ops. So it won't happen in Apple land.
However in a healthy market with competition between manufacturers, it will.
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What about DC-HSDPA which is effectively 2 x HSPA+? Both are supported by iPad 3 and DC-HSDPA is only 3G with up to 42Mbps downstream...
4G LTE meant to deliver up to 72Mbps downstream and its supported by iPad 3. So HSPA/+ != 4G LTE...
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According to both Apple and O2 your article is incorrect and IPad 3 and O2 will be compatible throughout the world once it is available in the UK at the end of 2012.
I am much relieved having just taken delivery of my new IPad 3 today !!
Well from the discussion in this thread I guess you can just call 4G whatever the hell you like, completely devaluing it as a "standard".
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It has i4G(5KBS) which uses iBandWidth together with iCompression technology. The iPad3 laughs at 4G considering it a waste of energy.
Ah so it's actually 3G LTE. I thought it was way too early for actual 4G. So what are they going to market 4G as when it's y'know, 4G?
It's analogous to all of these 'LED' TVs and monitors now, it's just going to make it harder to convince people to buy an LED TV when they're actually available...
Its not. 4G LTE is 4G LTE not 3G LTE (does this even exist?), detailed explanations on speed difference in my earlier post.
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I'm not wrong,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
'LTE' is actually 3GPP LTE, there's no standard currently in use which fits the definitions of 4G.
Edit: Useful quote:
The pre-4G technology 3GPP Long Term Evolution (LTE) is often branded "4G", but the first LTE release does not fully comply with the IMT-Advanced requirements.
Anyone care to comment on this? I'm getting more and more confused about this situation
No its simple Spoon is right, apple have marketed it this way, thus it is so.
Which is why you can't go coast to coast on your iPad. This is stupid, a friend of mine was looking to get a second iPad for her plane, so she can have plates + maps on display, and also have a backup without resorting to the paper maps. Thanks to some great software such as foreFlight the iPad is a brilliant aviation device.
Thanks to Apple charging you $100 to get GPS and Radio, but yet, not having a good enough radio set to support both, which I can't see as that much of an enigneering challange it shouldn't be solved for $100.......
Anyway the point I'm making is marketing terms asside, engineering terms asside, it sucks that they aren't making the device work everywhere.
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So basically 4G LTE is somewhere in between the fastest 3G available and 4G to be?
72Mbps downstream compared to roughly half of what's offered on DC-HSDPA seemed like a decent jump to call it 4G to me.
From the links you have linked 4G LTE is going after 1Gbps which we won't get anytime soon I think...
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