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    News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    In Australian online retailer Kogan.com marketing stunt.
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    It seems a little bit unfair that they don't have an option to download internet explorer 9.
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    Quote Originally Posted by cameronlite View Post
    It seems a little bit unfair that they don't have an option to download internet explorer 9.
    Is it?
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    They are charging a tax because of the cost incurred in developing for Internet Explorer 7 - not because Internet Explorer is insecure. Therefore they should list Internet Explorer 9 as an alternative to IE7.

    If they have a problem with IE generally they should charge a tax for all IE versions.

    The fact is that many people still on IE7 aren't going to know what the other browsers are. They're most likely to just shop elsewhere.
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    they have always had a bit of a shock tactic though?
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    Interesting stunt, and they are making a valid point to be fair. But it seems like a cheap shot to not include ie9 as one of the 'better browser' options - think they might be hearing from Microsoft's lawyers on that one...
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    Quote Originally Posted by cameronlite View Post
    They are charging a tax because of the cost incurred in developing for Internet Explorer 7 - not because Internet Explorer is insecure. Therefore they should list Internet Explorer 9 as an alternative to IE7.
    That doesn't change the fact that it isn't particularly unfair to not direct users to an IE9 download page when it still carries much of the same design flaws. There's a heap of other browsers they didn't link to either. Furthermore, if they did add an IE link, that'd just confuse the clueless even more ('but I'm already using IE MORANS!!11!!!').

    Quote Originally Posted by cameronlite View Post
    If they have a problem with IE generally they should charge a tax for all IE versions.
    Why? They can still have a problem with IE generally and having a more specific reason for the 'tax' scheme.

    Quote Originally Posted by cameronlite View Post
    The fact is that many people still on IE7 aren't going to know what the other browsers are. They're most likely to just shop elsewhere.
    I doubt that. But ultimately that's their risk to take.
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that it isn't particularly unfair to not direct users to an IE9 download page when it still carries much of the same design flaws. There's a heap of other browsers they didn't link to either. Furthermore, if they did add an IE link, that'd just confuse the clueless even more ('but I'm already using IE MORANS!!11!!!').
    It's not the design flaws of IE they're complaining about, just IE7 and development! The security flaws do not concern them. They should have just said "you need a browser update to visit our website, otherwise you must pay a fee" and then linked to IE9 which would have suggested an upgrade (which people could handle) rather than an entirely new browser.

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    I doubt that. But ultimately that's their risk to take.
    So you doubt that people with a 5 year old browser aren't aware that their browser is riddled with security problems and that there are faster more secure browsers available (IE9 included)?
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

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    It's not the design flaws of IE they're complaining about, just IE7 and development!
    And? That doesn't mean they should only direct them to the IE9 page.

    Quote Originally Posted by cameronlite View Post
    The security flaws do not concern them.
    Nowhere in the article does it say that the flaws don't concern them. Merely what their primary motivation is.

    Quote Originally Posted by cameronlite View Post
    They should have just said "you need a browser update to visit our website, otherwise you must pay a fee" and then linked to IE9 which would have suggested an upgrade (which people could handle) rather than an entirely new browser.
    Why? There's no rational reason why they can't them steer users in the right direction of getting a more secure browser at the same time.

    Quote Originally Posted by cameronlite View Post
    So you doubt that people with a 5 year old browser aren't aware that their browser is riddled with security problems and that there are faster more secure browsers available (IE9 included)?
    No, I doubt most are simply going to disregard it. Also, since they have introduced this tax to recoup development losses, I'm pretty confident that they did so because IE7 users represent a minority of their user/consumer base and yet require special attention, and so it's an annoyance they could afford to lose.
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Why? There's no rational reason why they can't them steer users in the right direction of getting a more secure browser at the same time.
    My point still stands, IE9 is more secure than IE7 and as a major browser should be on the list
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    IE9 is impossible to install on XP... so how does that link help them with customers using XP? They have more than likely done their research and found that not only are the people using IE7 a minority but also more than likely still stuck on XP because W7 comes with IE8 already and has the automatic updates install IE9 on the first check it does.

    So not only is recommending an insecure browser a bad move it is also just plain stupid because the people you are trying to get off of IE7 are likely to be unable to install IE9 anyway.

    I think it is a great idea, the internet has been held back by IE for long enough.

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    *Forgot about the xp bit. My bad.
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    some serious hate for IE on here today.


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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    I wonder how much the tax is for Internet Explorer 6 users.
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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    "hugely disproportionate amount of time gets used by his web design team massaging their pages to work and display correctly within the browser."

    M$ pah !

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    Re: News - Browser tax levied upon Internet Explorer 7 users

    Does Safari deserve a place on there? It's only second to Internet Explorer in terms of ridicule last I checked.
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