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    Re: News - Google Nexus 4 and Google Nexus 10 officially announced

    Quote Originally Posted by McPhee View Post
    I'm not liking this pricing trend. Google are playing a dangerous game here, and one that (in the long run) could see us with choices between first party hardware (i.e. Google, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft) only. Once the rumoured Kindle phone hits, things are only going to get worse...
    I find this a strange opinion...

    1) Competition is always good, especially for you and me the consumers, and drives quality/specs up and prices down.

    2) It's up to the OEMs to up their game. Google/amazon etc may be huge, but so are Samsung and Sony etc. Do you honestly believe google could drive them all out of such a huge globally lucrative segment when it's not even their main line of business?! It's like worrying that the Cooperative is going to drive Tesco and Sainsbury's out of business because they can undercut them with their cooperative practices...

    3) Even if I agreed with you in principle, the high upfront cost of unlocked phones rules them out for the majority of consumers who prefer to buy contract phones with few/no fees upfront (despite possibly higher long term costs).

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    I'm definitely going to try scrape some cash together to get the Nexus 4.

    To all those hating on the memory size for music. Google Music is coming to the UK on the 13th of November, it gives you storage for 20,000 songs which can be streamed at any time on any device with Google music. This will eat data but for those with unlimited data its a no brainer.

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    Re: News - Google Nexus 4 and Google Nexus 10 officially announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Singh400 View Post
    And you listen to 16GBs of music daily do you?
    not daily, but I recently had a 12 hour train journey for a weekend away...got through all 16 gigs then
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    Re: News - Google Nexus 4 and Google Nexus 10 officially announced

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/g...exus-10-review

    Performance of the N4 seems... dissapointing

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    Re: News - Google Nexus 4 and Google Nexus 10 officially announced

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    not daily, but I recently had a 12 hour train journey for a weekend away...got through all 16 gigs then
    Really? That works out to 12.8MB/minute (768MB/hr) which is larger than uncompressed music CDs.

    Edit: A quick estimate based on my music collection suggests 16GB of music would be enough for around 5 days of continuous playback at 320kbps MP3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/g...exus-10-review

    Performance of the N4 seems... dissapointing
    Interesting, initial reviews seemed positive and while the benchmarks look average they seem keen on making the point that it doesn't seek like the extra two cores are been used so is this a hardware or software issue.

    Also if you factor in the gpu and screen benchmarks and also the cost its not really disappointing at all.

    I'll hold off for a bit after release to see what's what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miniyazz View Post
    Really? That works out to 12.8MB/minute (768MB/hr) which is larger than uncompressed music CDs.

    Edit: A quick estimate based on my music collection suggests 16GB of music would be enough for around 5 days of continuous playback at 320kbps MP3.
    well not perhaps ALL 16 gigs, but a very large majority of it. Some of the music is uncompressed too as the Galaxy S 3 handles them easily.
    My point is that although you personally don't see the point, I have a large CD collection (7000+ mixed singles and albums etc.) and 16 gig is but a small fraction of what I own. Just because I don't listen to it all every day doesn't mean it's wasted. I'm not a fan of Spotify as a huge amount of what I own does not exist on Spotify, for example I have a large amount of j-pop and that is not represented at all. So it's ripped and on my main mp3
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    Oh and it appears that 2 cores are hardly used on my Galaxy S 3 either, Jelly Bean seems to be much happier with a faster dual core chip than a quad core in a fair few scenarios...
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    The Tegra seems to be pretty well optomised though doesn't it?

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    You know I'm not so sure...I still feel personally that Android prefers more rendering speed and clock speed than cores...
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    Re: News - Google Nexus 4 and Google Nexus 10 officially announced

    im with 3dcandy here... i have a similar sized music collection on my 64gb SD card, its nice to have the variety and library all on one device.

    8 GB is far too small these days for what smartphones capabilities are. nice phone but lack of SD storage has stopped me from purchasing it.

    cloud phones are definitely not ready to be mainstream especially with 90% of phone tariffs offering little bandwidth.

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    Re: News - Google Nexus 4 and Google Nexus 10 officially announced

    Just out of interest - would the Nexus 4 support pendrives or sd readers via the microusb? I suppose wireless storage devices such as http://www.scan.co.uk/products/500gb...or-mains-power would be possible as well?

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    Yes but no-one is going to lug one of them around or have an external SD card connected via cable just for music. It defeats the object of portability.

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    Re: News - Google Nexus 4 and Google Nexus 10 officially announced

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidM View Post
    Just out of interest - would the Nexus 4 support pendrives or sd readers via the microusb? I suppose wireless storage devices such as http://www.scan.co.uk/products/500gb...or-mains-power would be possible as well?
    Would have thought it would support it yeah, doesnt seem to be anything definitive on XDA at the moment though.

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    well not perhaps ALL 16 gigs, but a very large majority of it. Some of the music is uncompressed too as the Galaxy S 3 handles them easily.
    My point is that although you personally don't see the point, I have a large CD collection (7000+ mixed singles and albums etc.) and 16 gig is but a small fraction of what I own. Just because I don't listen to it all every day doesn't mean it's wasted. I'm not a fan of Spotify as a huge amount of what I own does not exist on Spotify, for example I have a large amount of j-pop and that is not represented at all. So it's ripped and on my main mp3
    Hey, I didn't say I didn't see the point, I was just contesting your statement
    Sure it can play the stuff, but is the audio quality really good enough to justify keeping uncompressed music on a space-limited device? I'd rather have more music at decent quality

    By the way, lack of microSD card slot is a big reason I probably won't be getting the Nexus 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miniyazz View Post
    Hey, I didn't say I didn't see the point, I was just contesting your statement
    Sure it can play the stuff, but is the audio quality really good enough to justify keeping uncompressed music on a space-limited device? I'd rather have more music at decent quality

    By the way, lack of microSD card slot is a big reason I probably won't be getting the Nexus 4.
    The limitation for quality is usually on the poor headphone drivers/soundcard. In many peoples cases, the headphones aswell. So you're right, it makes little sense to only have FLAC on your phone, trascoding is a pain in the arse though

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