News - Lumia 830 to slot into Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 range

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But apparently it slots under the Lumia 820.

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how about they actually get round to shipping their flagship.

the whole "So much to do at cartmanland but you can't come" mentality only works when people are constantly reminded about cartmanland and have a place to queue.

Windows mobile 8 has received little praise. The Nokia 920 and HTC 8X have both received quite negative reviews, I think there is little hope for Windows 8 mobile, or Windows 8 as a whole (personally)

The fact that Nokia are releasing a new model with a higher prefix but lower specs just shows they ain't got a clue.

Hang on to your money, I think the 920 will be quite cheap in 6 months when Nokia goes belly up.

Really? I know I might be a fan boy because gosh darnit metro makes me hate my SIII and don't ask me about iOS.

One of the guys as the verge confessed his love for the HTC 8X, most of the drawbacks of the Nokia are:
1) Ecosystem
2) Size / Weight

Now, for 1#, 120,000 apps, 46 out of the 50 top sellers. Thats most people, granted people like me still find apps (say Sky Deamon) which aren't available. But the simple fact is the full ecosystem, SkyDrive, XBox Music, Office is certainly stronger than andriod or iOS. Just the 3rd party apps.

For 2# its subjective, I would have it heavier if it ment more days without charging.

I thought the 920 was already out, I popped into my local ee store to have a play but to no avail, this thing will disappear into obscurity before its even released unless they hurry up lol, looks a great piece of kit though and is right up there with the s3 and iPhone 5 IMO (even if it is in third place with the htc one x snapping at its heels lol)

I want to get my father an 820 for xmas because I reckon the UI would be easier for him. But for 380, the Nexus 4 is tempting.

Waiting on the price and the specs of the 830.

I have to say that the handset actually looks pretty nice and svelte. I'm willing to give W8 a chance, as I just want a change from Android, and tbh, I apps I use most are things like FB, etc, with web browsing filling in the gap. I have been waiting/checking for the 920 for a week, have given up now, esp if I (and who knows) cant get it SIM free and unlocked.

The numbering system is definitely very odd, but will like to find out more about the specs and camera in particular. I've always liked Nokia build quality and they are definitely heavily invested in terms of WP8 and app exclusivity, so if the camera is decent, this could be a half decent alternative.

probably not Jonathan. This is going to be below the 820 in quality (stupid numbering eh!).

I would suggest having a look at the HTC 8X, its a great device, but doesn't have wireless charging, as good a camera or Nokia Drive.

Those are the reasons I'm waiting for my 920, which apparently will arrive before next week, but I'm not sure I believe that.

Yeah I think deep down inside I know that its definitely going to be a mid-ranged, and hence mid-specced, phone. I have discounted the 8X for the same reasons as you - I might have to plump and get one from Germany to get an unlocked one... :(