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    Re: News - Confusion in the UK over what is and isn't legal on the web

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    - If I buy a game on a console, I should be allowed to download the game on PC for Free , perhaps using a code which was at the back of the manual for the console version.
    Sorry but that's just plain ridiculous, what would you then do about the situations where one company develops the console version of a game and a totally different company develops the PC version.

    Are you saying the second company should not get paid at all?

    Keep in mind the Developers do not set the prices, the publishers do.

    For example Guitar Hero 3:

    Neversoft developed the PS3 and XBOX360 versions.
    Budcat Creations developed the PS2 version.
    Vicarious Visions developed the Wii version.
    Aspyr Media developed the PC and Mac versions.

    Activision published it and set the price.

    So you see with your system someone does not get paid.

    if you want to edit everything maybe you should stop watching TV and movies and playing video games.

    Stick to reading books and you can sit there with a jiffy marker and redact the content to your hearts content.
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    Re: News - Confusion in the UK over what is and isn't legal on the web

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    I want the studios to address these before they can open their mouth :

    - If I buy a game on a console, I should be allowed to download the game on PC for Free , perhaps using a code which was at the back of the manual for the console version.
    - I watch movies only once. I would consider paying £3 max for a movie and this does not mean streaming but me getting to download the movie and then being able to edit the movie so that I can remove nudity/sex/swearing scenes and watch it with my siblings/parents.
    - For TV shows, I want studios to stop doing the current DVD encryption business. On my DVD, I expect episodes to be in this format S01E01.avi, S01E02.avi, etc. Again, lets me edit the episode so that I can remove nudity/sex/swearing scenes and watch it with my siblings/parents. Getting a DVD boxset is a real pain. You have to convert it to mkv which takes time, adjust resolution, way tooo much time! And buying a DVD boxset doesn't let me copy the files to play on my phone while I am on the train.
    I am also happy to pay £1 per episode download.
    - I am happy to pay decent prices for software. Adobe Photoshop £390 .... wot?! Will only pay £20 for it.
    I also refuse to pay ripoff prices for crappy software. Windows 8 Pro full version shouldn't be more than a fiver!
    - I also want the music studio to ban hip-hop/r&b/D grade artists and get artists who can sing rather than do borderline pornographic music videos.
    Even Backstreet Boys > Rihanna!
    I don't listen to current music at all anymore. Long live the 90's!
    And I want Nathalie Portman to pay me £1 million to sit on my lap (among other things). Oh and world peace too.

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    Re: News - Confusion in the UK over what is and isn't legal on the web

    Quote Originally Posted by holy god of nil View Post
    Yeah let's get google to censor as much of the internet as possible, I only want to look at the bits the government decides I should do anyway.
    Wrong way to look at it. I only want other people to be able to look at the things I have deemed suitable.

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    Re: News - Confusion in the UK over what is and isn't legal on the web

    Quote Originally Posted by miniyazz View Post
    Lol OilSheikh.
    Unfortunately your valuations and ideas seem a little unrealistic. I'm unsure why what you consider to be a 'decent price' for software is the right price?
    I briefly had a client like him. He suggested I would like to cut my day rate to a quarter.

    He genuinely couldn't understand why I said no.

    He went bust a few months later.
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    Re: News - Confusion in the UK over what is and isn't legal on the web

    As of my age-group, many do not have jobs (under age) and/or saving up or paying for education. Some people really do find it hard to pay up for something that is just a click away on illegal download sites. Not sure if this is a point that has been already raised, but I feel that it raises a valid argument: students in full time education (esp. under the age of 16) have to pay the same price as adults when it comes to digital media (I could list more) - many do not have any form of income and are supported completely by their parents/guardians; or if they do have an income, it is most likely going towards something more important in life and that little bit extra left is not enough to afford those little luxuries that elders can afford with their 20K + salaries.

    The corporations should not be tackling the end users, but they should focus on themselves - what can they do for us? Discounts? Alternatives? I don't know... who am I to judge.

    My apologies for wall of text.

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    Re: News - Confusion in the UK over what is and isn't legal on the web

    Quote Originally Posted by 1pnoe View Post
    As of my age-group, many do not have jobs (under age) and/or saving up or paying for education. Some people really do find it hard to pay up for something that is just a click away on illegal download sites. Not sure if this is a point that has been already raised, but I feel that it raises a valid argument: students in full time education (esp. under the age of 16) have to pay the same price as adults when it comes to digital media (I could list more)...
    It's not a valid argument. If you cannot afford something, it doesn't mean that the vendor should reduce the price, it just means you have to save up until you can afford it or go without. I cannot afford to buy a car, let alone run one, but I won't obtain one illegally. I cannot afford a holiday (at the moment - I am saving up) but you won't find me stowing away on a cruise ship or whatever...

    People need to get over this sense of entitlement.

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    Re: News - Confusion in the UK over what is and isn't legal on the web

    Quote Originally Posted by 1pnoe View Post
    As of my age-group, many do not have jobs (under age) and/or saving up or paying for education. Some people really do find it hard to pay up for something that is just a click away on illegal download sites. Not sure if this is a point that has been already raised, but I feel that it raises a valid argument: students in full time education (esp. under the age of 16) have to pay the same price as adults when it comes to digital media
    A huge amount of software, and I'd go as far to say most of the big software releases have cheaper (in some cases free) student versions.

    Windows, Office, most 3d software, Adobe products....and so all all have student versions.
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    Re: News - Confusion in the UK over what is and isn't legal on the web

    Not to mention cheaper or legally free alternatives.

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