AMD delays financial analyst day to rethink product roadmap

[HEXUS]

The new date will likely be early next year.

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[anselhelm]

I very much do hope that Dr Lisa Su can turn the company around. AMD needs to make some difficult decisions and I'm hoping that this won't mean they'll leave the desktop forever. I'm really hoping that we might actually see a high-end successor to both the FX line and the ageing AM3+ socket.

I'm worried that AMD may pull entirely out of the high-end desktop market and try to focus on its APUs and server chips (especially with integrated ARM parts). I do hope this isn't to be the fate of AMD, as the processor market works best with Intel and AMD both competing healthily against one another.

[Plasmastorm]

If the sales at my shop are anything to go by AMD won't go anywhere.
Around 90% of PC's I build up are AMD. Mainly for home desktops or budget gaming.
Although I did do an 8350k build the other day for running virtual machines which was rather nice when done.
Only time we do Intel really is for high end gaming or rendering systems which are few and far between.

[flufflogic]

AMD have a serious hill to climb to truly challenge Intel on performance. Power efficiency, too, is a massive concern. Still, the huge financial boost that being in all 3 of the current consoles has to be a massive, massive help.

[ZaO]

I very much do hope that Dr Lisa Su can turn the company around. AMD needs to make some difficult decisions and I'm hoping that this won't mean they'll leave the desktop forever. I'm really hoping that we might actually see a high-end successor to both the FX line and the ageing AM3+ socket.

I'm worried that AMD may pull entirely out of the high-end desktop market and try to focus on its APUs and server chips (especially with integrated ARM parts). I do hope this isn't to be the fate of AMD, as the processor market works best with Intel and AMD both competing healthily against one another.

I'm with you on that. The wait for Amd to release some good new desktop Cpu's is killing me... Let's keep our fingers crossed on this one

AMD have a serious hill to climb to truly challenge Intel on performance. Power efficiency, too, is a massive concern. Still, the huge financial boost that being in all 3 of the current consoles has to be a massive, massive help.

I've been thinking that all along. Surely they've made a nice bit off supplying all these console chips.. But no one seems to talk much about that!

[shaithis]

I've been thinking that all along. Surely they've made a nice bit off supplying all these console chips.. But no one seems to talk much about that!

They don't supply them, they just pay a fee for each one they make. I get the feeling the fee is quite low.

[crossy]

I very much do hope that Dr Lisa Su can turn the company around. AMD needs to make some difficult decisions and I'm hoping that this won't mean they'll leave the desktop forever. I'm really hoping that we might actually see a high-end successor to both the FX line and the ageing AM3+ socket.

I'm worried that AMD may pull entirely out of the high-end desktop market and try to focus on its APUs and server chips (especially with integrated ARM parts). I do hope this isn't to be the fate of AMD, as the processor market works best with Intel and AMD both competing healthily against one another.

Like you I'm kind of worried that AMD will push it's (admittedly quite good) APU's as it's only desktop part. And while the APU's are pretty good "jack of all trades", they're not really a match (based on the b'marks I've read) for the top-end i5's never mind the i7's (although the AMD parts are a good deal cheaper)

As to a new socket to replace AM3+, I'd be happy with that idea only if there were compelling technical reasons to do so. That's one of the things that really gets my goat about Intel is that there's a seeming avalanche of new sockets - actually aren't we a bit overdue for a new one?

What would really please me at this precise moment is something that I can replace my aging, but still usable, PhenomII with. What I'd like is a sub-£300 part with 6 or 8 cores that had a TDP around 100W (preferably less) and better single core performance than even the FX's can manage.

(Although I'm prepared for Cat to dive in at this point and tell me that the FX8370E is probably what I'm looking for - and only £145!)

[ZaO]

They don't supply them, they just pay a fee for each one they make. I get the feeling the fee is quite low.

Amd get paid a fee for each chip used, you mean?

[shaithis]

Amd get paid a fee for each chip used, you mean?

Indeed.

[ZaO]

Indeed.

I guess it was kinda obvious you meant that. Would be kinda screwed if Amd were paying for each chip used lol... Well I have no idea what they get paid for each chip used. But with millions of consoles sold, and millions more to be sold - you'd think they'd be doing alright from it!?

[shaithis]

Knowing MS and Sony, they would have screwed AMD down to as low a figure as possible. On top of that I believe GlobalFoundries make the chips for both MS and Sony.....which means millions more chips then they normally make......potentially pushing AMD chip manufacturing prices up due to supply and demand. Would be very interesting to know the breakdowns.

[nitro912gr]

I'm agnostic when it come's to hardware, but let's hope for a comeback from AMD, intel is not only pricing i7 way to high, but they don't push performance much in each generation.
And they will keep going this way as long as there is no competition from AMD.

[ZaO]

Knowing MS and Sony, they would have screwed AMD down to as low a figure as possible. On top of that I believe GlobalFoundries make the chips for both MS and Sony.....which means millions more chips then they normally make......potentially pushing AMD chip manufacturing prices up due to supply and demand. Would be very interesting to know the breakdowns.

Yeh probably! But I agree, it would be very interesting to see some stats on this..

I'm agnostic when it come's to hardware, but let's hope for a comeback from AMD, intel is not only pricing i7 way to high, but they don't push performance much in each generation.
And they will keep going this way as long as there is no competition from AMD.

I would say I'm the same. I don't believe I've ever been a fanboy of any sort. But I am openly rooting for Amd, big time, right now

[Jimbo75]

I've been thinking that all along. Surely they've made a nice bit off supplying all these console chips.. But no one seems to talk much about that!

They don't supply them, they just pay a fee for each one they make. I get the feeling the fee is quite low.

AMD does supply the chips.