Samsung: Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 runs too hot for Galaxy S6

[HEXUS]

But LG confirms it will use Qualcomm's latest SoC, as it has had no overheating issues.

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[demothon]

The smell of cheap plastic for the new Galaxy S is blowing through the air. As usual Samsung will probably use some cheap plastic for the case of the new smartphone as they always did. A metal case might have been more effective for heat dissipation.

[abaxas]

Samsung who makes arm processors slags off another company who also does.

[big_hairy_rob]

I guess the possibility of the tests and results being engineered to deliberatly make the qualcomm chip appear to be unsuitable specifically to facilitate their own chip never crossed anyones mind.

[crossy]

Not to break the general slight anti-Samsung feeling of the comments so far, but LG isn't exactly known for making cool running phones, so what's "acceptable" to them might fall into "avoid" for another company.

Oh, and before someone accuses me of being a SamFan, my current phone is an LG G3, (because it was/is better than the Galaxy S5). Great for the cold weather - just play five minutes of Smash Hit and the back gets lovely and warm (ideal for thawing out fingers).

[Satyapal]

Yeah its good
Coz some of the rumors are also said that S6 will come with glass body

[Brewster0101]

Samsung who makes arm processors slags off another company who also does.

Exactly that.

Samsung making PR for its own CPU while bashing the competitors..... Ssssssimple

[TRUTHnTRINITY]

I guess the possibility of the tests and results being engineered to deliberatly make the qualcomm chip appear to be unsuitable specifically to facilitate their own chip never crossed anyones mind.

Haha my thoughts exactly!!

[plexabit]

I wonder how they're planning on fixing it. Undervolting might work I guess but I don't know enough about that to know if it's feasible on a smartphone level. If it gets hot, there's going to be a huge market for "cooler cases" XD

[keithwalton]

Sammy typically clock the snappy chips to the max that qualcomm allow. The last 100MHz can add a lot of heat. But they want bragging rights.

When sammy use there own chips they tend to be clocked a lot lower (500MHz+)

A hot running chip could be one of two things,
- Heat density, the chips are getting so tiny now that in terms of W/mm^2 this will have increased significantly
- Total heat output, if it's the TDP is that is high then it causes a lot of other problems. As the extra power draw will mean the battery will run hot and with phones getting ever thinner the heat they can dissipate is getting ever lower as the screens generate more and more heat with each generation

[3dcandy]

1st sentence says that people close to the subject CLAIM that they have dropped the 810 for the S6. No real info here, and yes LG are known to run warm

[Jowsey]

Samsung who makes arm processors slags off another company who also does.

The smell of cheap plastic for the new Galaxy S is blowing through the air. As usual Samsung will probably use some cheap plastic for the case of the new smartphone as they always did. A metal case might have been more effective for heat dissipation.

I guess the possibility of the tests and results being engineered to deliberatly make the qualcomm chip appear to be unsuitable specifically to facilitate their own chip never crossed anyones mind.

Exactly that.

Samsung making PR for its own CPU while bashing the competitors..... Ssssssimple

Haha my thoughts exactly!!

Dear everyone,

Thank you for listing your baseless claims. As the Samsung Group has yet to publish any confirmed specifications for any potential phones that may or may not be released on a yearly cycle, I believe it would be best to stop spreading slander or derogatory messages. If you would like to discuss this in more length my contact details are as follows:

E-mail: dontlieaboutsaumsung@samsung.com

In writing, please send letters to the nearest Samsung headquarters for attention of To Be Recycled.

Phone: Ironically, Samsung have not provided me with a phone.

Thank you for participating in this non-Samsung funded discussion. Please remember we will sue the living snot out of you if you whine.

Kind regards,

Me
(Not a Samsung employee at all!)

/sarcasm.

On topic, it doesn't surprise me. Probably a load of BS as we know how trust worthy Samsung is.

[azrael-]

The smell of cheap plastic for the new Galaxy S is blowing through the air. As usual Samsung will probably use some cheap plastic for the case of the new smartphone as they always did. A metal case might have been more effective for heat dissipation.

Apart from the fact that we don't really know much if anything about the Samsung S6 at this moment (apart from that it apparently won't be based around a Snapdragon 810 SoC) we can probably all agree that a metal body is more stylish. However, if the phone having a plastic body means I can swap the battery then so be it. IMO there's too much form over function going on these days.

[MrRockliffe]

There is potentially truth behind this. Many companies I believe have had issues with little big configurations, especially in 8 core flavours. It's a lot of power to try and cool without the use of fans etc and without the right software improvements and just general chip improvements. Samsung may have been testing this on a prototype a few months back, and they hay have found it runs hot at the time. Since then, QC may have indeed fixed the issue, but as Samsung expect to sell many of these, it may have been too late to pack every smartphone with one (could have started using exynos processors by that time) , Unlike LG whom probably don't expect to sell huge amounts of the Flex 2.

That being said, without the right thermal housing etc, the 800, 801 and 805 all run hot under load. I've noticed it with Samsung, OnePlus and Sony phones.

[JGJones]

I've got an HTC One M7 - that does get quite very hot. Any fairly recent mobile CPU, running at full speed after a while is going to get hot and its speed then get throttled. That's normal. I don't think there is a mobile whose CPU can run at full sustained speed indefinitely without throttling? They work extremely well at burst speeds though which is what they are primarily made for as I understand it - to get something done asap and then clock down.

Got the OnePlus as primary phone and I haven't felt any heat from it but I haven't played any games on it yet (only had it a week) and it's in a case which might insulate the heat from my hand - doesn't mean it won't get hot

[paulie_boy]

Samsung just want to push their Exynos chips