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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    The worst of the rebranding is the HD 6450 > HD 7450 > (HD 8450 oem only) > R5 235 > R5 310.
    C'mon enough defibrillation, let the darned thing die.

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Quote Originally Posted by zaph0d View Post
    The worst of the rebranding is the HD 6450 > HD 7450 > (HD 8450 oem only) > R5 235 > R5 310.
    C'mon enough defibrillation, let the darned thing die.
    I don't see the big deal here, I mean its a budget card that is designed to basically give you a monitor output and some hardware decoding for videos, its not meant for AAA games. With intel having half decent GPU power built in, there isn't a huge desire for this kind of thing in the market so why bother developing something new?

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    The 280 is even older than the 270

    It'd likely be new variants of tonga (also the basis of the 285) that'd be used in the upper-mid 300 series IMHO
    Yeh probably!

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Quote Originally Posted by zaph0d View Post
    The worst of the rebranding is the HD 6450 > HD 7450 > (HD 8450 oem only) > R5 235 > R5 310.
    C'mon enough defibrillation, let the darned thing die.
    I was about to blame TSMC holding amd/nv on the 28nm process for the last few years, but then I saw this was a 40nm chip.

    I suspect AMD have a massive stockpile of unsold chips and they will keep on rebranding it until they have all gone

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Quote Originally Posted by keithwalton View Post
    .... I suspect AMD have a massive stockpile of unsold chips and they will keep on rebranding it until they have all gone
    I find it more likely that AMD simply can't be bothered going to the expense of creating a new mask for a GCN replacement. It must be dirt cheap to keep rolling out a tiny GPU die on 40nm, even if they're not making them in any volume any more. The constant rebranding of low-end parts is usually down to OEMs who want a consistent spec part but want it to sound new every year.

    Although I am somewhat at a loss as to why AMD haven't rolled up a 128 shader GCN part for the low end yet. They could probably make it cheap enough on 40nm that they could afford to give one away with every AM3+ CPU they sell....

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Not really fussed, won't make any difference to me as I'll be looking at the 390X.

    I am guessing that AMD will rebrand the rest of the lineup to get rid of the stock inventories before releasing new lower end cards.

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Although I am somewhat at a loss as to why AMD haven't rolled up a 128 shader GCN part for the low end yet. They could probably make it cheap enough on 40nm that they could afford to give one away with every AM3+ CPU they sell....
    ISTR they used to do something like that, it was called to 790 chipset

    OFC if they did a new 28nm entry level part (that could crossfire with an AM1 APU?) then it would be capable of FreeSync

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    **** poor effort by AMD if true. Their market share will only get worse, maybe even as bad as their CPU's!!

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Did anyone really expect much different? This became the norm in the GPU industry years ago.
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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaph0d View Post
    The worst of the rebranding is the HD 6450 > HD 7450 > (HD 8450 oem only) > R5 235 > R5 310.
    C'mon enough defibrillation, let the darned thing die.
    I don't see the big deal here, I mean its a budget card that is designed to basically give you a monitor output and some hardware decoding for videos, its not meant for AAA games. With intel having half decent GPU power built in, there isn't a huge desire for this kind of thing in the market so why bother developing something new?
    There's nothing wrong with the cards (apart from lousy output support), it's the way they're marketed that's the issue. Misleading advertising is forbidden, and when the first digit of a model number has denoted the design series in the past it's arguably misleading to change it if you're keeping the same chip unless you explicit say so (which won't happen).

    On a practical basis, it makes it even harder to tell which cards provide half-decent value for money because the benchmarks are scattered over multiple different names.

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessWaves View Post
    Misleading advertising is forbidden, and when the first digit of a model number has denoted the design series in the past it's arguably misleading to change it if you're keeping the same chip unless you explicit say so (which won't happen).

    On a practical basis, it makes it even harder to tell which cards provide half-decent value for money because the benchmarks are scattered over multiple different names.
    The same chips have been used for different series many many times in the past, so there's no precedent to say it's misleading now. As for value for money, it's not the manufacturers job to say which of their cards is better value than the others. The performance segment *is* however marked clearly.

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Wonder if it's to do with the fact that unless the GPU can power 4K over 1080p then AMD know people won't really upgrade. So if people won't change - why bother making a newer slightly faster sub 1080p cards that don't really achieve much more than what people are already buying.

    The next big push in the GPU world is got to be 4K, considering current (2014) high end cards can do 1080p now.

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Related Reading: Nvidia reveals details about its next-gen Pascal GPU
    It will be 10x faster (WOW! X 10 ) than the Titan X in tasks like this vague one

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Gotta love the quality of these articles hah.

    The source is literally some random joe poster and a different article on the same matter where they say they're interpreting the driver info their own way and suggest you do the same ?

    I mean if everyone else is churning out these you better do the same. "News" is news right. I love the headline by the way

    Yet no mention of the same rumours that came from AMD where they supposedly revealed they do not plan on doing rebrands this gen?

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Good Review! I'm interested in 390X. You helped me so much.

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    Re: Reviews - AMD Radeon 300 series may largely consist of rebrands

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    ... OFC if they did a new 28nm entry level part (that could crossfire with an AM1 APU?) then it would be capable of FreeSync
    So, low-to-mid quality gaming at 1080p with variable refresh? I reckon crossfired up you should be able to get around 30fps at 1080p lowest details, which freesync might make quite playable...

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