AMD provides a first glance at Zen Summit Ridge performance

[watercooled]

AFAIK they're MCM modules using the same die as the desktop Summit Ridge CPUs so it's not too surprising.

[pastymuncher]

Nothing to be excited about really. With all the hype that they spout about upcoming products which turn out to be poor or mediocre when actually released, I shall wait until they are available and thoroughly reviewed before making judgement. We really do need them to be competitive again though. Intel has had things their own way for far too long which has driven the prices of their cpu's up to ridiculous levels.

[DanceswithUnix]

Sad that AM4 motherboards are not already out like a lot of people were expecting. I don't *need* Zen for some systems, I don't want to invest in old FM2+ boards any more and certainly not another AM3+.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yeah,Bristol Ridge for desktops seems to be nowhere to be seen and it makes me worried what the release schedule for the Zen APUs will be like - I would find it hard to believe AMD replacing Bristol Ridge so quickly on desktop.

AMD Kaveri is over two years old currently.

[badass]

Bristol Ridge - if priced appropriately - would me more than enough for the vast majority of desktops, including for PC gamers. In fact if my PC was a couple of years older and didn't have 32GB RAM I would probably have bought Bristol Ridge if it was out now with the intention to upgrade to Zen later next year.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Bristol Ridge - if priced appropriately - would me more than enough for the vast majority of desktops, including for PC gamers. In fact if my PC was a couple of years older and didn't have 32GB RAM I would probably have bought Bristol Ridge if it was out now with the intention to upgrade to Zen later next year.

I don't disagree with that,but even Intel has updated their IGPs with certain features which makes them look more attractive than what AMD has ATM. Kaveri has done reasonably well,but the issue is that instead of Skylake being compared to Bristol Ridge,if AMD delay too long it will be Kaby Lake instead!!

[aidanjt]

Well I'm hopeful. Intel has held a virtual desktop monopoly for far too long now and they need a good competitive slap in the bake. The fact that they're architecturally competitive with Broadwell-E is promising. But we'll have to wait to see what comes out next year.

[Bagnaj97]

the issue is that instead of Skylake being compared to Bristol Ridge,if AMD delay too long it will be Kaby Lake instead!!

Surely, given the core/thread count and Intel's past release schedules, it'll be compared to Skylake-E rather than Kaby Lake?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Surely, given the core/thread count and Intel's past release schedules, it'll be compared to Skylake-E rather than Kaby Lake?

Emm,Bristol Ridge will be compared to Kaby Lake with its improved IGP instead of the current Skylake at the current rate.

Broadwell-E has just been released so hopefully it will be Zen against that instead of Skylake-E.

[watercooled]

Surely, given the core/thread count and Intel's past release schedules, it'll be compared to Skylake-E rather than Kaby Lake?

Bristol ridge is the Excavator-based APU. The Zen CPU is known as Summit Ridge.

[Bagnaj97]

Bristol ridge is the Excavator-based APU. The Zen CPU is known as Summit Ridge.

Ah yes, I was getting my ridges mixed up! Thankfully I'm not Klingon...

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Some more slides released:

https://www.techpowerup.com/225248/a...pu-complex-ccx
https://translate.google.co.uk/trans...tml&edit-text=



So basically an 8C/16T chip is comprised of two CCX modules and the APU has one of those CCX modules replaced by a GPU.

[jigger]

Is the quad core APU a 4 or 8 thread chip?

[Jowsey]

Is the quad core APU a 4 or 8 thread chip?

it'll be (up to) a 4 core, 8 thread CPU.

If single threaded performance as close as what the Broadwell-E comparison makes it seem than this could be an APU with the same rough performance of an i7, with Polaris based GPU tech. That would be pretty amazing, IMO!

I believe the next 6 months will be extremely exciting for CPU news!

Come on Zen, we're all rooting for you!

[jigger]

Any news on the die sizes for Zen?

[scaryjim]

... If single threaded performance as close as what the Broadwell-E comparison makes it seem than this could be an APU with the same rough performance of an i7, with Polaris based GPU tech. That would be pretty amazing, IMO! ...

Single threaded performance is unlikely to surpass the desktop i7s from a couple of generations ago, mind you, and we don't know clock speeds yet, although an engineering sample running at 3GHz is, I guess, a reasonable sign. Add that to the rumoured 768-shader GPU and we're looking at an SoC (Zen designs all seem to include a southbridge) that performs like an Ivy Bridge i7 plus (based on ~ 80% of RX 460 performance) a GTX 750 Ti. Nothing astonishing for the desktop, mind you, but just imagine that in a laptop, taking advantage of the lower CPU overheads of DX12/Vulkan to push more of the TDP into the GPU...