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    Windows hardware partners now designing ARM cellular PCs

    In the wake of last week's Windows 10 Qualcomm Snapdragon 'cellular PC' reveal.
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    Re: Windows hardware partners now designing ARM cellular PCs

    Let's hope they don't give them piddly little unexpandable 2GB RAM/16GB flash configurations.

    I worry that energy efficient will be an excuse for a cheap battery as well.

    Hopefully Nvidia will be working on Tegra drivers for Windows 10 already, could make for an interesting next gen Shield console.

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    Re: Windows hardware partners now designing ARM cellular PCs

    Intel won't have been making much per chip from all the Atoms in low powered Window devices, but there would have been reasonable quantity there so this must come as a bit of a blow. I hope AMD haven't invested too much in getting back into the low powered end of the market...

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    Re: Windows hardware partners now designing ARM cellular PCs

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbouk View Post
    I hope AMD haven't invested too much in getting back into the low powered end of the market...
    AMD have been investing in ARM cpu's of late too, maybe they knew something before we did. The competition prize for day 3 is a SoftIron OverDrive 1000 which is running on an AMD Opteron A1100 processor containing a quartet of 64-bit ARM Cortex-A57 cores

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    Re: Windows hardware partners now designing ARM cellular PCs

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbouk View Post
    I hope AMD haven't invested too much in getting back into the low powered end of the market...
    AMD Dropped out of the tablet market years ago.

    Zen is their entire range now, the Jaguar in current consoles seem to be the last users of the old dual issue cat range.

    Nothing stopping a dual core Zen APU going into a tablet, but I don't see AMD putting resource into trying to make it happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    AMD have been investing in ARM cpu's of late too, maybe they knew something before we did. The competition prize for day 3 is a SoftIron OverDrive 1000 which is running on an AMD Opteron A1100 processor containing a quartet of 64-bit ARM Cortex-A57 cores
    That chip is designed for 10Gbit ethernet and lots of ram, probably wouldn't work well in a tablet.

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    Re: Windows hardware partners now designing ARM cellular PCs

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    That chip is designed for 10Gbit ethernet and lots of ram, probably wouldn't work well in a tablet.
    True but there's nothing stopping them from developing an arm processor with support for windows 10 etc. They may already be doing so not to mention I'm sure I read somewhere they were trying to add arm cpu's into their gpu's which could be very interesting approach if they're thinking in that way (not saying they are)....

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    Re: Windows hardware partners now designing ARM cellular PCs

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    True but there's nothing stopping them from developing an arm processor with support for windows 10 etc. They may already be doing so not to mention I'm sure I read somewhere they were trying to add arm cpu's into their gpu's which could be very interesting approach if they're thinking in that way (not saying they are)....
    AMD have been embedding ARM cores into their APUs for some time to get the secure boot.

    They also have a version of Zen that runs ARM instructions, so that should be awesomely fast, or will be if they ever actually finish making it.

    But I think this is more about Microsoft trying to appear still relevant in a modern connected age, rather than ARM who clearly already are.

    This is a win for the likes of Qualcomm or Nvidia who already make the right sort of silicon. For AMD it is another tablet target that will probably flop as badly as the last time they tried pushing Brazos etc as a high end AMD64 tablet, so I can't see them bothering.

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